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I have to cancel today's call, I have a new computer and it is saying I need to download and make adjustments and updates. I'm so sorry. I will reschedule Overcoming Challenges with Other Teams, I even did a presentation for it.
⭐ New issue of the CMAweekly newsletter is out and it’s got a lot of new content <!everyone>
Access the beta version of the Advocacy Tech Portal to get your Vendor Scorecard
Check out the blog for new posts/recordings and top quotes from calls with @Katlin Hess and @Patrick Kalie
and visit the updated Resource directory
⛔ Finally, NO CALL TODAY - but we will return next week with winners from the CAP Awards with Captivate Collective, @Liz Richardson and @Deena Zenyk
Please share your feedback on the new content below.
On with Joel to talk about community
I’m excited to brainstorm and share insights on Adoption and Onboarding with Taylor Page - if you have experience, can you join us? <!here>
Bring your roadblocks and let’s brainstorm about them -
for this Friday’s meetup <!everyone>Hi all, we are on with Emily Amos to discuss Customer Stories
<!here>Hi <!everyone>, this week’s newsletter is out and it is PACKED full of content.
The biggest piece of news: We have Sponsors!! ⭐
Welcome UserEvidence, Champion, Orca, and Advocacy Maven as supporters of your professional development in Customer Marketing & Advocacy 😁
Thank you @Evan Huck @Mark Huber @Jeff Reekers @Gianna Scorsone @Scott Grimes @Andru Creighton, and @Diana Gabroveanu for helping our community.
Check out the issue here and subscribe. Next week I’ll release our new Tech Portal on the website and subscribers will hear about it first.
Here’s the newsletter
Don’t miss today’s chat with @Carey Jordan about Customer Communications for Large Product Lines (this topic matches a call with Taylor Page from this week where she talked about Onboarding for complicated product lines - recording is being uploaded to Youtube now).
at 2PM EDT <!everyone>Join us <!everyone>
I’ll hop on at 2PM EDT to discuss whatever topics you’d like. See you soon
Hi all, getting on to discuss Adoption & Onboarding with Taylor Page
<!everyone>Lauren Stefano’s group call on Virtual events from yesterday is on Youtube
Hopping on with Shetal to discuss Expansion
Tomorrow you get a 2 part show:
1 - Shetal Shah will host a mastermind (group discussion) on Expansion - RSVP here -
2 - Friday meetup with Jeni Asaba - Intersection of Community & Advocacy - RSVP here -
Finally check out all of the new uploads on Youtube today
We’re on with Lauren Stefano talking about Virtual Customer Events
<!channel>The guest for this week’s call isn’t able to keep the time open. I’m going to cancel as I have a service repair company coming to deal with my washing machine. Next week, @Callie Rojewski will join us to talk about developing your advocacy program strategy and delivering it to leadership.
Have a great weekend <!everyone>!
Hey all, I’m taking the next few days off. Please message @Shannon Howard if you need anything! 🙂
Hopping on today’s call with Daniel Palay on Showing Our Program Value
Thank you for all that you've done for our community, keeping us connected, helping us grow and learn from one another, and doing it all because you wanted to help.
We appreciate you so much, Mary!
Thank @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) for BUILDING such a great community of CMAs. You are truly inspiration
We are live <!channel>
What he said!!! I understand the why, but certainly wish there was another way.
You handled that perfectly
<!everyone> in case you didn’t see it in #general
All Good Things Must Come To An End…
TL;DR I’m exhausted from running the community, and financially need a break, I’m looking for a buyer, then taking the summer off. Please help me find the right buyer.
Two years ago I started CMAweekly with weekly zoom meetups.
In the two years I’ve learned a lot of things about myself, the tech space, relationships and people.
Like many others in the space, it’s been hard to monetize the community and hard times and emotions make it even harder. Simply put, I’m awful at selling myself, my services and my knowledge.
I’m awesome at giving it away for free. And, I had hoped that would eventually lead to offers for work, sponsorships, etc. Unfortunately, those offers haven’t panned out, save for a 6 month successful sponsorship pilot with Champion, who they didn’t have the time to benefit as much as they could from the engagement, but assured me they had wanted to continue.
That’s business. It’s exciting, often rewarding and other times harsh, painful and exhausting.
What’s Happening?
So while it’s been wonderful to build the CMAweekly community, it’s time for a break. I’m looking for a buyer, one who will continue to grow the community and support CMAs.
What’s included: newsletter, YouTube channel, recordings, website, Slack workspace, CMAweekly name, list of members/subscribers, accounts on Grain, Zoom, Luma, Beehiiv, and anything else I dig up. Be sure I’ll be looking out for the community’s best interests while evaluating offers.
I want to thank everyone who has been supportive, especially those who saw the value and supported the community financially. THANK YOU. It’s been a pleasure to meet, help, and learn from you all. But, I need a break!! :)
Please share this message, tag people who might be interested, and send companies my way.
Such a great report Mary! Thanks for putting in all the time and effort!
Due to repeated complaints about using the community to push for sales, I’m banning Deeto employees from the community. <!everyone>
I apologize but I can’t host the call today. The Summer Series starts next week with a new guest!
My condolences. Sorry for your loss, Mary. 🙏
Who has program or customer advocacy success they want to share? Comment here or message me, I’m scheduling a CMAweekly Summer Series and YOU are showcased! 🥳
TY all, you are the most awesome people 🙂 ❤️
So sorry Mary 💔 for your loss. Sending hugs and prayers 🙏 your way. Let us know if you need anything.
Sorry for your loss, Mary. Sending you lots of love
Hi all, I won’t be able to host the call today, we had a passing in the family yesterday and I wasn’t able to plan the call. I’m sorry, we will be back next Friday. I will send the newsletter Tuesday. Everyone have a safe Memorial Day weekend <!everyone>
<!everyone> No call today. The Google invites ended and I didn’t realize it. We will be on for next week with Evan Jacobs discussing turning colleagues into champions: the art of creating internal advocates. 😄 Have a great weekend.
amazing thank you!
our survey varies depending on the content. we always ask:
1. How valuable was this CAB event to you?
2. How likely are you to recommend Ada's CAB to your peers?
then we ask 1 quantitative and 1 qualitative question about each session we did in that CAB meeting. for example:
1. how would you rate the product demo?
2. how could we have made the demo more compelling for your business?
@Perri Chaikof @Tiffany P. Nguyen could you also share the post CAB survey with me?
Sad I missed the live call but thank you for posting the YT video, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)!!
Hey @Lauren Turner! I know this was 4 months ago, but would you please share what you have with me as well? And congrats on your new biz!
Great session, @Patrick Kalie! I remember you were talking positioning repurposed event content as "behind the scenes" - do you have an example of that?
Today (in about 20 minutes) @Patrick Kalie is joining CMAweekly Fridays to share on Event ROI, Finding Expansion Opportunities at Events, and more. Don’t miss it. [bit.ly/cmanps](
ALSO - we need negative reviews on the software in our space. Pop into the Advocacy vendor survey and quickly answer a few questions, it will take 90 seconds Max
Today’s update on the Customer Advocacy Rankings Survey:
Base submissions: 6
Ranking: 27/60
Champion submissions: 1
Ranking: 10/10
Deeto submissions: 14
Ranking: 136/140
Influitive submissions: 12
Ranking: 53/120
Orca submissions: 1
Ranking: 9/10
Reference Edge submissions: 8
Ranking: 65/80
SlapFive submissions: 4
Ranking: 35/40
UserEvidence submissions: 16
Ranking: 154/160
I don’t think I ever saw this @melanie gomez ty for sharing.
It’s time to share your opinion on Customer Advocacy platforms. <!everyone>
I NEED your answers to help others making decisions on their next software purchase so please share a few seconds with us.
No Friday call today <!here> - Have a great weekend.
@Vikki Lira ☝️
@Vikki Lira
We’re on with Champion & Gainsight
Hi there - question about these release documents...
Is this a best practice? Does it help get approvals quicker? We do not have them, just keep email chains with approvals. But I was curious if they are help in getting a yes/approval quicker. Also - does it help avoid last minute drop outs?
And do you use for any story share, or just case studies/videos? What about webinars or event speaking opportunities
I've had some situations recently where the customer contact said yes to a story share/webinar, said it was all good, had a few meetings but last minute get a no because they mentioned it to someone... or did have an approver that wasn't mentioned at beginning (even when asked or after a few content meetings!)
Thanks in advance for any input 🙂
Please forgive me but I can’t host the Friday call today, distant family emergency. Please join us next week for the call with Gainsight
it’s going to be hot 🔥 <!here>So far, I’ve heard really great things about the new platforms in the space. But I love seeing reviews as well ty @Danielle Stewart
Not surprised!
All I've heard is high praise for Deeto across the board 👀
Thank you so much!
@Emily Gover I’ve been using Deeto for over 8 months now and cannot be happier! Let me know if there are any questions I can help answer on how our team is using it and the results we’ve had 😀
Someone was just talking about Deeto yesterday. I will check it out.
Thank you @Stephanie Murphy! Sending you a DM 🙂 This kicked my butt in gear to just set up time for my own demo with them
@Emily Gover I’ve used their product and would be happy to share my experience.
Great job, Mary 👏.
Hey <!everyone> we are on with Emily Amos right now!
We will record @Amy
@Emily Amos can you record and post a link after the call? thanks
@Amy Thanks for the kind words! I'd be happy to chat further about this on the Friday call. 😀
Wow. VERY impressive @Emily Amos 🌟 I would like to find out more about "activities that impact revenue most" and how companies are collecting this data.
Adding in @Emily Gover who's leading this for Dropbox 🙂
Congrats @Kevin Lau ✨
Happy to help! Another fun angle could be having @Emily Gover's perspective as a candidate - met through CMA weekly (thank you Mary! 🙏 ) and nailed the whole process. Forgive my delay from extended travel!
No call today. 3 kids with awful stomach bug. <!here>
Mary what time are the Friday calls and where do we go to join in? Thanks!
<!everyone> Hopping onto the Friday call with Jane Menyo to discuss advanced advocacy.
Beautiful! Congrats 😄
Wip at the moment. Essentially it’s an aggregate score that we’ll use to incorporate several datapoints to get a better pulse on the customers overall satisfaction - NPS, csat, ces, health etc. At the same time we’re building out use cases to incorporate this into a customer data platform or CDP like sfdc data cloud or Adobe experience platform. This is definitely a multi year journey
@Kevin Lau - Curious if you've expanded on the customer engagement index yet. I heard you mention it on a podcast. I'd love to learn more!
Thanks for clarifying @Marie Elliott!
HEY - Some news for you all 🙂
Last week I finished a
on the CMAweekly Blog:Katlin Hess from G2 did an AMAZING call with us on Feb 9th on how she did a complete makeover on
🎉 Jane Menyo from Gong is discussing Advanced Advocacy with us THIS Friday- she’s going to share and ask for your input.
I’ve made updates to the
And there are
for the Influitive Success Series, Revenue Planning, a Deeto Demo and more.🔥 Finally!!! My course is open again 😄
Please support me by checking it out, giving me feedback, sharing it with others, and joining the cohort!
In the course you will learn several systems and frameworks to make your job much easier and more productive, while still having fun.
The best part? No more Advocacy Island, you’ll get all of the support you need to build the best program of your career!
GO HERE --->
genius! just what I was looking for, thank you both
@Emily Amos the latter. I typically will do an intro/discover type call to dig into what goals they had and how they are achieving them, any metrics they may have, how their use case is growing but sometimes the measurement and impact is more... Fluffy. Either due to the level of the happy user being too junior or the generic use case.
I usually pivot those to a customer quote and or ask for a review but I'd love ideas and advice on how else to approach these cases.
@Marie Elliott Do you mean that you know that you need a story about use case A for geographic area B for X size company, and it's challenging finding that exact story?
Or do you mean that you know you have a happy, successful customer who'd be happy to participate, but the challenge is determining whether there's anything unique about their story (and therefore whether it's worth telling)?
Great points @Randy Ksar - appreciate it!
@Shannon Howard Love the avocado analogy - thanks!
Great tip @Maria Colusi, thanks!
PS I didn’t mean to “downgrade” anyone - that sucks. Please know I had no idea it would say that. No one has been downgraded.
Hi All, I’m making a few changes so it’s easier to find announcements (like Friday calls, Events, new resources, sponsor info, courses, etc). This channel is now #announcements and the new #general is where you can post. You should still be able to comment on posts in this channel 🙂
Please give me feedback or thoughts on this.
In product 100% is low hanging fruit for NPS and CES. We did a comparison of in product via walk me vs Marketo email and it was 4x engagement from walkme
We increased our NPS responses by improving the appearance of our in-product request (mostly adding avatar w/ a person which generally gets us more responses, but also making slightly more prominent) and removing any delay for the pop up when the users hits the page where they are asked. Our theory was they are more likely to respond when they haven’t started doing things in-product yet.
Hi friends! I started at a company last week that has absolutely ZERO advocacy functionality built up yet, so I'm starting from scratch. Had a call with Legal today about ensuring we're using customer IP (names, logos, etc) responsibly and by the books. Anyone willing to share what their release forms look like for publishing customer content so we don't have to build that from scratch as well? At the moment, we're not going to be adding a publicity clause to the SLA, so more focused on a stand-alone type doc.
Anyone have recommendations for free scheduling software to use when coordinating several busy customer's schedules for a joint presentation? I've looked into Calendly but that requires them to create an account and connect their calendar, would rather use something with a bit less friction if possible... 😅
Hi Poojasri - OES sounds interesting - this is how we approach VoC across 3 spectrums of listening to get both real time and delayed feedback. We will be introducing a customer engagement index in the future
Hi everyone! I'm creating a new resource for the community and would love your input. What are your 3 biggest challenges when it comes to identifying customers to particpate in customer stories?
Thank you so much for all your tips and examples, friends! Appreciate you all.
This is the video release form we modified from Testimonial Hero:
And this is what's built into our agreements (I honestly think whether they get a discount or not. We just let them redline anything they don't want so it's built in upfront): In consideration of the pricing discounts provided in this Service Order, Client permits Intellum to identify Client as a customer by using Client's logo within sales/marketing materials and on its website. Further, Client shall upon advance request by Intellum participate in some or all of the following at Intellum's discretion
• Case Study (used for various purposes including being available on Intellum’s website)
• Speaking Engagement
• Video Testimonial (used for various purposes including being available on Intellum’s website)
• Conduct Reference calls as reasonably requested
And any time I'm talking with a customer, I'll say something to this effect: Once the video is filmed/case study is written, we'll send over cuts for your approval. Your team has ultimate veto rights, so if there's anything you don't want us to share, that's OK! You reserve those rights. << I say this to put them at ease about the ask in general
And then I include this: Usually someone from the marketing team (like a VP of Communications or PR) likes to be involved for final review. For the last few stories we've done, I've found edits are typically around very specific wording the company prefers to use, but no edits to the actual story content. << this is to give them confidence that other people have done this and we've done such a good job, there are no edits. Also to put them at ease.
Hi folks! For those who use Influitive/ a platform where they award advocates badges, do you have examples of cool badges you've created? I'm looking for inspo because we're starting to do custom badges
Hi everyone, I would love to hear your recommendations and best practices on building up a referral program as a B2B Saas company.
Would love to hear:
• how people promote the program
• how you track referrals
• what kind of incentives work best
Would love to hear your thoughts 🙂
Here's our agenda from our full day in person industry CAB meeting last week. It is C-level customers in the Construction industry. Happy to provide details. The two breakout sessions are always very popular...especially the Table Topics session where CAB members work on different top-of-mind topics (not necessarily related to our product) that they voted on in advance.
AEC CAB Agenda - sharing.docx
Password: XF46ESUe
Hi all! Is anyone using G2 Buyer Intent data with great success? We have it in our package, but aren't seeing value. I suspect that we don't have the right people involved in the org, and a lack of knowledge about how to leverage the data. Would love to hear any success stories. 🙏
I'm late to the game on this but would love to join a call if you haven't met yet! @Emily Gover @Ornella Mariño
@Kira Kletti
Hi! I came across this post on LI and it's the first time I've heard about Digital Services Act. Interested in hearing if anyone has made changes to their community to align with DSA regulations.
We did a light walk through of our roadmap and discussions around it with a networking event after.
What do you consider a ‘mini’ CAB?
@Marie Elliott This is really helpful, thanks!
@Hena Varma — Love these program types!
Were either or both paid opps or simply a swap (content for exposure/maybe a discount for advocates on contracts)?
love to return the favor by offering any LinkedIn profile advice, content strategy, and marathon advice.
Hi friends. Happy Thursday. Curious if anyone has any experience running an awards campaign for customers? Getting nominations, voting, etc..Love to see any links to any award sites and even talk to a few of you.
Hey everyone! Our org is considering hosting an in-person CAB session in late April/early May and would love to hear about your past experiences or any advice you can share. Our NA based CAB is spread out all over the country, and we don’t have a user conference that would make sense to align it with.
Disclaimer: We’ve held virtual CAB sessions twice a year for the last three years, so this is new territory for us.
- Any tips on gauging CAB members interest in attending in person and handling scheduling challenges? Would you recommend sending out a survey to gather preferences and availability?
- Any recommendations on choosing a neutral location? Thank you in advance!!
congrats on the launch!
Bit of a niche question — has anyone here had experience leveraging corporate/sports sponsorships for customer marketing activities and/or lead/demand gen? We may have one in the works, and this is a new realm for me...
Hi everyone! Is there anyone currently running a reference program and would like to share some insights on it?
money!
ok random but if anyone has any brain power they want to share .... had a fun plan for international women's day with a custom chocolate bar and messaging was going to be punny around an 'Empower-Mint Chocolate Bar' but they don't have the mint choc chip flavor ... any chocolate puns you can think of? chocolate bar flavor is milk chocolate or sea salt caramel - thanks!!!
That was my original plan for 2024. CMO overrode my plan.
We should ALLLLLL LEAVE G2 and peer reviews in the dust. #overrated. #hottake :)
@ Its in concord, ma on a pond. We have a separate entrance but no full kitchen. It’s great for a long weekend and enjoy sharing and meeting our guests. My wife manages it and she is a super host. If I managed it…..
at Salesforce "customer marketing" is purely a support function to PMM, events, and content. responsible for infusing customer content/stories/VoC into marketing efforts, not exactly for nurturing Advocates... that happens on the Trailblazer teams who run the Trailblazer Communities
@Shannon Howard I've had a few friends say that they got an error message when trying to vote. Anyone else have this?
let's gooooo!! good luck @Kevin Lau gonna be great!
We have a few members that want to have a call on Expansion strategy; I’d like to include some campaigns and maybe results others have had in their expansion efforts. Who’s In? PS: I’d like to plan it out more than open discussion. If you want to join, I’ll reach out to see if you have campaigns or insights to share. 🙂
We have some older case studies on our website & we're trying to decide whether to deprecate or keep them. If a POC that was quoted a few years ago is no longer at the company, do you still keep it on your webpage? Do you update the old case studies or deprecate them? Trying to get some best practices!
Hey all, wondering if this happened to anyone else or if it’s just us --
We pay G2, have a shared Slack channel, dedicated CSM, etc. A couple weeks ago our AE left and wasn’t replaced. Now our CSM is suddenly gone and there is no one from G2 in our shared Slack channel and no one has reached out to us. Emailing our CSM got an auto response that they left G2, contacting the higher-up listed in the auto response resulted in a kinda terse response telling us to contact support. We’re baffled. Not sure if it’s just our bad luck or if this is wider spread?
Hi all! It's been a couple of weeks since @Jeff Reekers and I were on @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) weekly webinar. Would love to re-offer any support or office hours - happy to converse on the sales/ cs perspective, getting buy-in as I know this is a hot topic! Likewise I can share models and frameworks I've used to motivate teams in tough times!
Hello everyone! I'm working on our customer advocacy plan (never was one) and I wanted to ask which benefits or rewards you offer to your advocates? what do you find motivate customers the most? swag ideas? gift cards? something else? my main goal in launching the program is to increase our customer generated content (success stories)
@Julie Neumeister I’d be interested in whatever you’ve got to share for the release webinars!
Hi all- I've been quiet for a while - heads down on our upcoming customer conference and my teams is in charge of the entire event!
We are hosting an awards ceremony during dinner. Does anyone have a template/event run of show for an in person awards presentation at dinner? Or anytime of day? Or any tips? We are running a bit behind and I need to get this figured out ASAP. Thank you!!
Love all of this, working on this as well - @Madeline Coke if you would be so kind to share yours I would love to see it!
Oh, very interesting, @Mariah Lenahan! I honestly haven’t heard of that set up but makes sense the expansion and lifecycle folks are under one leader. My experience is more on the brand advocacy side of things. In my experience, typically that function is separate from LCM and expansion in my experience (unless the company has merged them). I’ve definitely worked with those teams especially to advise on leveraging customer advocacy content like case studies and quotes for campaigns or nurtures.
@Sarah McCoy I'm curious how other folks have their teams structured since I do see a lot of advocacy related activity in the channels (by that I would mean customer references, etc). We have separate LCM, CM, and CA teams here. We work together closely but my focus for example (managing the Customer Marketing team) is on customer adoption & retention which also includes some degree of customer education. We have a separate team that is focused more on brand advocacy, specific customer programs like running a CAB, etc. And we recently combined the expansion & lifecycle marketing teams under one leader.
I've only worked with small and medium sized organizations regarding customer marketing, but they have been all one team (of one).
@Jane Menyo asked: Are you hosting 🖥️ *virtual Customer Advisory events?*
Yes 👍
No 👎
100% agree. At smaller companies, the hiring team may not have had any previous experience with reference programs so they need someone to come in to confirm best practices, what works, what doesn't work. When you see a long (unrealistic) list on the JD, that's a sign!
are you sending monthly/quarterly release notes? if so, any template you're willing to share. we're starting to do this monthly.
Hey there, do you mean “customer marketing” as in retention or lifecycle marketing? It’s one of my biggest pet peeves that these terms became intertwined over the years…. But in larger companies advocacy and the folks responsible for upselling etc to the existing customer base are typically not on the same team in my experience. I’m not sure what other folks might say.
Hello everyone 🙂 I'm sreaching for the best webinar platform to run pre recored webinars that allows us to launch polls and survey to capture demo requests, currently we are using GOTOwebinar platform and we are using the survey feature to collect demo request but because the survey launch only in the end of the webinar the number of demo request are low, and I'm trying to find better soultion - Any recomendations? Thanks!
Hiring CMA leaders - who wants to be a guest on a call to help others win new positions? @Kevin Lau @Ari Hoffman @Jeff Reekers @Diana Gabroveanu @Daniel Palay @Bree Bunzel @Asha May @Megan Donaldson at Zoom @Shetal Shah These could be group calls, panel calls, presentations, anything you’d like to offer.
If you know someone else who recently hired in our space, or does consistent hiring in our space, tag them in. TY!
Does anyone use Charity Choice to gift charity donations for advocacy activities? Trying to get a better understanding of the cost and user experience.
Greetings! Any leads on cool industry awards to nominate customers for (developers, AI/object storage/multi cloud)? thanks
I've seen several things over the years:
• pins (for their lanyards) that allow community members to recognize one another
• community names on their conference badges
• special seating for community super users
• recognition for those super users at the conference (plaque, certificate)
• special dinner
• having community members speak at the conference
• giving the speakers a badge on the community afterward
• giving all attendees a community badge afterward
• having special participation badges they can earn during the conference for submitting their photos, favorite quotes, etc.
@Emily Gover ☝️ both of these threads might be helpful!
@Emily Gover ☝️
Hello friends 👋 Does your company have a referral program? I am doing some early stage research on how other brands are implementing referral programs to reward their customers and increase their sales pipeline, and would love to take a look at yours if so.
I'm especially interested in how SaaS businesses (B2B or B2C) are structuring their referral programs (e.g. Airtable).
Please share any recs (either your own, or ones that inspire you) in 🧵 — thank you!
Anyone have any really great email templates they use for inviting customers to be a panelist and/or keynote speaker at events?
For Design Partners, what’s a good number you aim to have in the program?
• Currently, I’m thinking 10-20 max.
It’s for a new side project and it’s closer to a product than I’ve ever ventured before on my outside of a company and want to ensure my friend and I are staying close to it through a design partner program. Equally, I’ve never owned one before 😅
Curious what other community managers do to promote and engage their communities at your company's annual conference?
@Hayley Handler this thread may be helpful. 👆
Hi folks! Curious if anyone here every planned or executed an AB(C)M referral strategy? Specifically with a focus on selling into groups of related brands. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone! I wanted to see if anyone had any CRM/Retention/Enagement/Loyalty platforms they could suggest similar to yotpo with SMS and Email capabilities?
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) Essentially issues with community being prioritized over advocacy and now some overlapping projects. @Valeria Gomez That's great! I might try to do create a customer journey and see if that helps
@Asha May - thank you! This panel interview is on Thursday! I am prepping.
Catching up here. @Sharon Rosa-Bohrer - I hope your interview went well.
glad it was helpful! Happy to answer any Q's or provide more advice anytime
Happy to brainstorm more with you.
I used Zapier with Influitive to automate sending testimonials on to the marketing team and the customer’s customer success manager.
Thank you all!
thats a really good cheatsheet!
@Mariah Lenahan Here is an interview guide that has some questions geared towards preferences for an advocacy program, but can also be used for community
Hi does anyone have any ABM campaign examples/planning resources they can share. I’m hopeful going to be running more ABM programs in the near future and would to learn how other orgs are approaching this. Thanks
Mirroring Laura’s comment. Many of our clients ask for sales slides and maybe an additional quote or two.
However, I think the best approach here is the simplest…ask the sales team what they want or need instead of guessing.
If you can’t get a straight answer from the sales lead (and it’s likely you can’t/won’t), the What, Why, How messaging framework could be helpful in guiding you toward the types of information a prospect may want to see during the purchase cycle.
What: is the product/does it do? Or what do your current customers love about your solution/team?
Why: is what you do different, better than other options on the market? Or why did your current customer choose your company over other options?
How: is your company or product uniquely qualified to solve the prospect’s biggest business and job challenges? How do your current customers use your services/products (in detail) to do their jobs better, smarter, faster, etc.?
The result is that you may end up with some audio and video buyer’s guide-style assets, or a how-to guide driven by your existing customer use cases, etc. Complements well the sales slides and other more prototypical sales enablement assets.
Hi all - looking for some ideas for additional resources to arm our sales teams with. What types of content/assets are you creating for them to use in pitches. As an example, you have a new case study or customer spotlight, how are you helping the sales team leverage that asset? If you're willing to share the asset that'd be awesome!
Thanks in advance!
Hi! Hope everyone's week is off to a good start. We're exploring the use of Zapier to automate different actions in our community. For those who are using Zapier, what are some of the zaps you've set up to help deliver a better community/customer experience?
Hi all! We are planning on launching a community this year and I'm conducting some customer interviews to help us guide our roadmap and planning (and validate the impact to customers). I have an initial list of questions, but was curious if anyone else had favorite questions they like to ask customers when doing this kind of research?
Hi everyone. I am preparing for a panel interview on Thursday for a customer marketing role where I know 2 of the people will be demand gen folks. I also know their focus is on top and middle of funnel. I anticipate I will get questions about my experience in generating relevant content that engages customers and moves them down the funnel, segmenting our audience, metrics around demand gen activities of which I know they told me is mostly emails at this point. I also know this role needs to work closely with Customer Success which I have also done in the past. What questions do you think I should be prepared to answer and what examples to have ready to speak to for the demand gen perspective? Also, what questions do you think I should ask? I plan to ask how they see a successful collaboration with this Customer Marketing role? Thanks everyone!
@Maria Braune thank you so much for this. The interview went really well and based on answers I got they are in the infancy stage of lifecycle marketing- it’s more where they want and know they need to go, but from the sound of it they haven’t even mapped the customer journey yet. So I don’t have a problem working on that but I will ask some clarifying questions. These 30 minute interviews are not long enough!
For those of you who have started/have Slack customer communities - any resources to share on how you got started? Specifically curious about boundaries you have in place on who you let in/invite, how you police so it doesn't turn into all "support-type" questions, how you keep engagement up, do customers without Slack in their workplaces see benefit in joining? THANK YOU!!
What an excellent call we had on 2024 Planning. Here are some quick notes:
Takeaways from the call:
• Mary: Predictions; Revenue/Expansion, Revenue, References
• Katlin Hess from G2 Joins us next Friday to discuss Reviews & Onboarding Comms
• Rebecca: Get focused and in your lane. Make it clear what is your responsibility and what is not.
• Daniel: Make sure Sales sees your contributions and support.
• Ajay: Make sure we are sharing our program value.
• Evan: C-suite has a decreasing patience for results from our programs.
• Lauren: Drive monetization with your program now.
• Multiple people: But how do we best show that value?
• Daniel: Capture and share the touchpoints on closed deals to show the real influence and keep sales from taking all the credit.
I’ll have the recording on the website soon.
Next week:
• New guide on influitive alternatives for those looking at other options.
• Wednesday (new biweekly series) Influitive Success Series - get influitive support from the community
• Friday Katlin Hess shares on Review programs for 2024 and Onboarding Communications
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TY for attending @Evan Huck @Daniel Palay @Rebecca Grossman @Ajay Nawathe @Amanda Schulte @ @Maria Sturgeon @Jennifer Lyons @Alison Bukowski @Cristina Levenetz @Jenine Laviola @Allison Hughes @Ornella Mariño @April Chu
Hey @Justine Winkler I'm not 100% sure of what the needs are for an Exec Sponsorship program to be able to speak about whether or not BriefingSource would be a great fit and I also wasn't an admin of the tool. If you have the time, maybe check them out?
We are live
Thank you and yes, please @Sarah McCoy
We’ll be discussing 2024 Planning again today at 2PM EST
Could you share a little bit more about what that looked like @Sarah McCoy
I haven’t run an Exec Sponsorship program, but I have used BriefingSource alongside the EBC and Comms teams. I wonder if it’d be worth checking out.
Sorry All, I have been removing some posts that are more promotional to the #open-share channel (everyone in general is also in open-share). The general chat only allows promotional posts from CMAweekly or our sponsors and I like to try to keep it clean. TY, you are all awesome, kick a** CMAs 😄
Do you use a product analytics tool, like Heap or Amplitude?
Hey all! Has anyone run successful feature adoption programs for customers? We do the usual stuff - running feature led webinars, 1 page guides and helping the CSM team with in-person product training. However, we need to get better with tracking all efforts to see the effect of the above. Any thoughts on tracking + anything else that you'd do to push feature adoption?
Does anyone have experience running an executive sponsor program? If so, what type of tooling have y'all been using to make it more programmatic and easier for executives to participate? Thank you!
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Thanks @ - this is helpful!
Got feedback back from bp with only 2 more small edits they want done. We are SO FREAKING CLOSE to getting this amazing case study published, I can't wait. (And it's only 1 month late from original timeline). 🤞 Here's hoping it crosses the finish line this week.
@Sharon Rosa-Bohrer - first - GOOD LUCK!!
I would ask questions around how they are set currently for segmentation and personalization. This might help to determine if there are any gaps that you might face when it comes to sending the right lifecycle messages to the right person.
I would also ask what their expectations are - this will help you understand what they are expecting from this program.
I would also ask who the biggest champions are within the organization when it comes to this role. Meaning - will you have support from the Client Success team?
Hi all! Hope everyone is having a great start to the year. We’re preparing for an integrated campaign with our demand gen team, and the topic of gated content has surfaced. I’d love to hear how others approach gated content for the customer audience.
A few initial questions come to mind:
• Do you have any standard rules in place for when you would or would not gate content for a customer?
• If you’re not using a form, how are you measuring the effectiveness of content?
◦ Our DG team relies heavily on downloads/engagement as a success metric for content. When we promote content without a form, we run into the appearance of “not contributing” to success metrics for the content piece.
Recognize this could be a larger conversation about content strategy, but interested to hear how others approach this topic!
Hi everyone, I am sure this question has been asked before but I would love to hear what this community thinks are the best customer marketing/customer advocacy conferences to go to this year?
This is a great question, @Sharon Rosa-Bohrer ty for sharing with us. I’m posting in general so that more of our members see it. 🙂
Hey all - Starting next wednesday at 12PM EST I’ll be hosting a bi-weekly Influitive Community Support call with @Diana Gabroveanu from Advocacy Maven.
The first call is with @Dean Shaw and we will discuss Proving Program Value.
Be sure to bring your questions for anything Influitive Platform specific - we’ll cover as many as we can.
P.S. Yes I do have experience using Influitive 😄
RSVP here:
Also, there’s a new issue of the newsletter -
There is now an #influitive channel as well, for questions and thoughts between calls.
^^^ definitely agree here. Review count only shows one piece of the puzzle. I think there's a ways to go in terms of reporting/insights from our customers on which sites they look at etc. But one of the big things we're focusing on for this year is implementing Birdeye to take the manual reporting off our plates and allow us to run campaigns/report on which campaigns are successful etc. I think that will then change how we report out to our stakeholders since we will have easily accessible data that we don't have to pull ourselves
I ask because $559 seems high for a room block rate.
Out of curiosity, which city is your conference hotel located at in?
I’m sorry <!everyone> I have to reschedule today’s call 😞
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) i never got back to you!
Um, it's a manual job for us all right now. 3 or 4 of us have to manage the different brands/sites. As you can see, some of the brands have more than others. For our leadership, they can quickly see how things are progressing. We update it weekly, which I think is too often. (reviews don't always come that quickly). AND, if you have a specific campaign running, like we did in November and december, your numbers can get deceptive.
For example, we had something like 50+ reviews come in over 2 weeks time. So, our delta number was like +47 and +16...but then the cut-off date for a promotion hit and the reviews slowed down, so the delta became -37 or something.
that doesn't tell a good story. We just got 50+ reviews! And then we got 4. Everything is ok!
For planning, @Emily Smith is our powerhouse strategist for this. I steal her ideas honestly. She comes up with monthly/quarterly ideas, where to focus, which sites to focus on, etc. in addition to our "always on" efforts.
@Crystal Anderson could you share this CAB doc w me also?
Thank you!!
(Currently use and admin an influitive community and my org has been a customer for many yrs for background)
Thoughts?
Looking to just prepare ourselves as we had already been assessing zendesk and have purchased for a support perspective - but want to understand if there's anything else in the market that actually compares to influitives advocacy hub capabilities.
Speaking of the above ^^
What are the serious alternatives to Influitive from a functionality perspective?
@Margo Schneider We did ours slightly different, and covered the amount of nights instead of a tiered cost. So we said book your room, and then we will pick up 1 to 3 nights of your stay depending on who it was.
I will say I am avoiding it this year, it was messy. Remember to account for the tax and fees and be clear on who has to cover those per night.
Forrester’s take on the Influitive acquisition by Principal Analyst, Amy Bills.
"Late December’s news that Jigsaw Interactive would acquire advocate marketing platform Influitive came as a shock, but not a surprise. Even Influitive’s most loyal supporters recognized its weak spots , but public communication from either company since the announcement has been lacking. Jigsaw owner ESW Capital must invest in the offering after the planned initial cost-cutting. Otherwise, competitors — which have already begun capitalizing on the disruption — will seize the moment. This increased focus will drive development across the market, but we don’t recommend changing solutions until the disruption subsides".
I saw a great one on tiktok the other day. Will find it after I do bedtime with the littles
Not CM/Advocacy related BUT does anyone have a 1:1 meeting template that they love? I was looking through free ones online before I build one but I thought I'd see what you all are using if you don't have a software solution.
Events/Hosting a conference Question:
Does anyone have experience with wanting to cover a portion of the hotel cost for customers attending your conference or creating different tiers of hotel room rates. We have been given a room block rate link from the hotel of $559 and want to offer:
• A $199 rate to customers
• A $299 rate to Prospects
• A $399 rate to Consultants that are attending.
The hotel wont give us the 3 lower rate links so trying to get creative to give all attendees the best booking experience and how to have clear communication if all attendees have to book at the $559 rate and then the hotel will bill to us the portion we are covering on the backend .... a mess right?! 🙂
@ can I add that to the resources on the website (all free to access) in a doc?
Here's a short one I wrote as a response to an NPS detractor:
Subject: Oof–that hit right in the feels. How can we help?
Hi [customer name],
Thanks so much for completing our quick survey–your feedback on how we’re doing is critical to our improvement. From the looks of things, there are some issues where we fell short of expectations.
We really appreciate your candid feedback! It’s how we learn and get better. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to see how we can make things right. Can you let me know specifically what we can work on with this one question survey so that the appropriate person can get in touch?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
[name]
Thanks, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)
Shout out to @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) and @Taylor Bogar for setting up and leading the discussion today! And thanks to everyone else who shared ideas and inspiration! Customer Marketing is going to shine in 2024 and today added some extra gas in my tank to on my quest to land my next CMM role! Rock on Advocates, rock on!
Group Call: 2024 Planning
2:30 PM EST TODAY
No presentation, this is a group discussion on how we are planning for 2024.
Join us
Hey team!
Customer Conference planning is probably upon most of us at this time. Was wondering if anyone had any super unique swag/gifts that they've given away in the past that were a hit?
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Hi @ - I'd love to see as well. Thanks
I’m awful at reading and I have both Blinkist and Headway to make it short and easy
Wow that is a lot of great books, ty @Mariah Lenahan
Would you mind sharing with me too @ ?
@Becca Snee did you find what you needed?
@Michael Sciano I like how you made the conscious decision to focus on one site at first. We often give ourselves far too much to do, having that focus is a much better idea.
That’s a great write up @Axel Lavergne - if you’d be open to it I can reshare that in the newsletter this week.
Aww miss you too @!! ❤️ We should catch up for a coffee chat if you're free!
What habits or goals are you working on this year (doesn’t have to be for work)? @Shannon Howard (a resident favorite here) shared with me that she focuses on habits to build, not necessarily goals. What a great idea. Can you share some habits you’ll work on in 2024?
Here are mine:
• More 1 on 1 conversations with all of you: November and December got away from me, so I need to focus on having more conversations and making connections between all of you and the resources we have.
• Weekly Community Column: I want to find 1 person every week to write a short column on a CMA topic for the community.
• Providing more value in my content: Again, I feel like I got off track.
Personally I have a few as well:
• Spend more time as a family - with 2 older teens, it can be hard to pull us all together and make quality family time work, but I’m up to the challenge (any other parents of teens want to chat sometime?).
• Develop better Sleep and Morning routines - I’m not the best at going to sleep at night and that makes mornings really tough. Right now I’m working on wearing my blue light glasses in the evening and not eating after 8PM. For the morning, it’s Coffee and watching a helpful video, then work. I keep thinking about Huberman’s morning routine, I’d never do the cold wash but the rest sounds enticing.
How about you?
Hi @Yoselyn Rea, we offered gift cards, swag such as mugs, t-shirts, hoodies, water bottles. etc. and donations to charities as incentives for rewards. Before Covid we also offered ice cream and pizza parties as incentives. I was an Influitive user for a few companies I worked for. Amy Ng, above is also an excellent resource to talk to as well. Miss you @Amy Ng! ❤️
Hey Yoselyn! I work at Influitive and I know a lot of our clients offer gift card rewards with exceptions for public sector customers and some have a spending cap per member based on corporate gifting policies. (I believe anything over USD $600 in a calendar year cumulatively needs to be reported on your taxes.)
There are lots of opportunities for non-monetary rewards as well though so happy to chat through this further if you'd like!
update, we’re on the financial sector call now if you want to join
Not customer marketing-related, but anyone have a great field marketing manager they've worked with who might be open to a short contract March/April?
Sure thing @Maria Colusi. Feel free to reach out and we can set up some time to chat
My question feels basic but I would like to execute it well. When scheduling a virtual CAB meeting with ~15 members from various companies have people seen success w a date/time voting or calendar tool or just emailing 2-3 dates/time and gathering responses?
Hey All! I've joined a new company (iPaaS/CIO focused) and am looking for ideas for swag items to include in an advocate welcome box. Anything your advocates rave about?
<!everyone> zoom for our Open Discussion is opening now 🙂 HOP in!!
Curious about the Influitive call - did anyone hear “business as usual?” were concerns addressed? TY 🙂
Could be interesting for you to explore a hotel drop too! That way if you decide to do gifts, people aren't lugging them around the venue and can start enjoying the gift upon arrival
Hi All! I am managing an advocacy program that offers rewards for activities, has a point structure, etc. The program has been around for a long time (going on 20 years) and the points have never expired...until now. Leadership wants to overhaul the point structure and institute a point expiration (among other changes) going forward. Has anyone conquered this before? All the programs i've ever run always had an point expiration dates. So I'm curious how this was managed on the back end and ultimately communicated to customers, if anyone has any experience here!
Happy to chime in! A few learnings from running Influitive's BAMMIE awards:
• Plan for a soft and hard deadline for applications – give yourself the flexibility early as you'll often have many applicants ask for a little extra time.
• Include word count limits – not all applications will be created equally so asking for brevity ensures a more level playing field.
• Find a way to bring in a surprise and delight element – this could be getting congrats videos from your winners' executive team, teammates or even their friends/family. It adds so much more to their winning moment
• Create a content piece out of your winning entries – this is a great asset that not only highlights your customer as an industry thought-leader, but allows other customers/future customers to learn from their success
Of course, my pleasure! I'd love to connect with you @Maria Colusi
Thanks @Lauren McCutcheon ❤️ !!! @Maria Colusi I'd love to connect with you! We host three rounds of Awards each year, all around product usage.
This is all SO amazing! Thank you for the examples @Ornella Mariño these are great. I can connect with you privately and I'd love to share specifics on what we have planned and get your insights. @Srishty Khullar
Love these @Rebecca Grossman! We typically will have all of those categories, along with a booth for our user community for our customers and prospects to learn more about that and join on the spot. We had branded swag with the community name on it (keeping the size of the item top of mind) — packing cubes, tote bags to carry around their other swag from the event/water bottles/notebooks, pencil pouch, and then a charger organizer! So the swag we gave out here was more like a “perk”, people could choose to join the community and not take swag, or join and take something home
Tagging in our Award EXPERT here @Cassie Sneed 🏆 to share any of her thoughts and best practices with the different awards and strategies we use!
Hi @Maria Colusi! Recently I joined a Webinar about Customer Awards. I saved two examples that i loved! I hope this help to inspire you.
Also, I think the following question could help you to design the awards:
1. What do you want to highlight? For example, those customers whose actions are aligned with your company´s values? Or the ones that bring more profitability?
2. Who will choose the winners? I like the idea of a transparent votation. Sharing their success stories so the rest of the customers can vote.
@Amy Ng LOVE that idea! It gives people a choice. The coop where I used to live did this when you brought reusable bags to the store. They gave you wooden tokens worth 5 cents apiece (1 for each reusable bag) and you could "vote" between 5 different charities. They'd then count up the tokens and gift to the charities.
@Rebecca Grossman My 2 cents (not saying I'm right): For the advocacy activities and speakers, a gift might be more appropriate. For attendees and award winners, swag might be more appropriate. Here's why I'm saying that: Attendees and award winners are going to take a photo, post it, and tag your company. That has marketing value. But for your speakers, CAB, and testimonial, those people have taken time to provide a service for your company. They may also take a photo and post, but what they've done has gone beyond generic swag gift criteria.
hi everyone. love this community. so many lessons / best practices shared. Hope everyone is having a great start of the new year!
Hi all - Happy New Year! I was wondering if anyone has experience with Customer Awards? If yes, I would love to hear about any best practices or results you have seen 🙂 Thanks thanks
Thank you!
Here’s the preso - unfortunately they wont let me share the recording externally but you can get the jist from the slides- if you have questions LMK
@Kevin Lau hi! do you have a recording of this? i am currently working on building a community page
Hi all - is anyone leveraging any paid services with TrustRadius? I would like to know what the spend looks like if you're willing to share. Currently, we are working with G2, and I see that staying the same, I am just checking out additional options. Please let me know your thoughts on review sites as well.
Thanks in advance!
Hey @Shannon Howard I wrote down what we usually recommend to our clients in
. Here's the TL;DR- If you rely on search ads extensively, make sure you get at least 100 reviews per geo on one google-certified platform. Just the one. The usual suspect is Trustpilot, but there are plenty. It'll get you stars on Google, and on avg a 20% bump in CTRs. This is where the big ROI is short term.
- Pick 2 - 3 platforms. Not more.
- Capterra, Getapp, and Software advice use the exact same reviews (some people aren't aware) and you can pay to play. It's a PPC model and your position is directly defined by your bid. They claim reviews help with a "quality score" of some sort, but really it doesn't account for much. If more than 3 people are bidding on your main category, there's no point playing the organic game (getting reviews), it's a lot cheaper and faster to pay to play.
- If integrations are a big deal to your business, be sure to get every single integration user to review you there. For example if you have a Salesforce integration that's driving real ROI, make sure you don't ask Salesforce users for a G2 review. Ask for an AppExchange review instead. Also massive ROI there. These platforms are usually tons less competitive, and they're where the money is.
- For lack of anything better, google your brand + reviews and pick the top 3 websites. Send all the reviews you can to the platform with the highest ranking potential (lowest # of reviews you need to get top 3 and lowest review velocity) and get 10 - 20 5-stars per quarter on the others just to get the ball rolling and maintain fresh 5-stars. Change your focus to the next best once you hit top 3, maintaining the avg review velocity of the top 5. Meaning if the top 5 gets 45 reviews / quarter on average, you'll need 45 reviews / quarter on that platform. Not 50. Not 100. Not 15. Just 45.
- Do not settle for the quarterly G2 & Gartner campaigns that drive 15-20% collection rates. Happy customers are hard enough to come by that you shouldn't settle for anything under 35% collection rate. Also, make sure you know who's reviewing you. Do not get locked into a single platform. They're your customers, and they're reviewing you. You should own the relationship.
- Always-on is tons more effective as blast campaigns. Review recency is grossly over-rated on the main software review platforms because they're in all-out war for SEO positions and need fresh content. This means a 3 months old review is worth a lot less than a 1 week old review. Getting 2 reviews / week gets you ranking higher than getting 9 / month.
- An efficient way to increase collection rates is to escalate requests: Ask for a review on one platform. Once they've submitted it, ask them if they'd be willing to repeat the exercise on another platform. Make sure they don't copy paste. They usually can't because the fields aren't the same anyway, but a good way to ensure they don't is to know they reviewed you before the review is made public. Have them let you know or fill in a 2 question form or something after they submitted their review.
- Use rewards. Either reward the customer directly, or mention explicitly that you're rewarding the staff asking for a review
- Use a personal touch. The most effective way to collect reviews, by very very far, is to ask for one right after a positive human interaction. Support ticket solved quickly is the most widely used, but there are plenty of times when humans speak to customers. This is when you need to ask for a review. Also, do not write "we" when asking for a review. "I" & "You" only.
@Ari Hoffman add me pls!
Hey Shannon - we utilize a range of sites across our 3 brands at ServiceTitan. We (the we being @Emily Smith, me, and a few others) really try to focus on where our customers are participating. For example, ServiceTitan has to focus on G2, Trustpilot, Google, and Capterra. FieldRoutes manages 5 or 6. And, at Aspire, I manage 1 - Capterra.
The Aspire team made an intentional decision to focus on Gartner/Capterra since all of our reviews were there. We had ZERO on G2 and other platforms two years ago. So, instead of spreading ourselves across a bunch, we decided to invest in capterra - for SEO, for reviews and content, etc. Our customers seem to go to Capterra/Get Software for whatever reason, but now it has really worked.
If someone googles for Aspire Software reviews, they are going to end up where we want them because we don't have profiles on any of the other sites.
Separately, yes, we worked with the Gartner team to consolidate two previous software products (Go iLawn and Land1) into a newly launched product a year ago (PropertyIntel). The Gartner team was really helpful to use and associate the reviews of the other two products into the new product and profile. We just had to show screenshots and marketing material proving the new product was replacing these two with similar functionality.
@Shannon Howard, more than happy to provide insight on what we do. We currently utilize G2, Capterra and TrustRadius to drive reviews and have moved to the leader board on all three over the last year.
@Ari Hoffman i can make either time
Let me know if you can join either time, we will make that work
Gah. Sorry for all the questions, fam! I am clearly taking on some new programs this year. 😅
We're having a local customer join us at our RKO. Anyone have resources/suggestions of how to structure their session? Planning on it being a "fireside chat"-type deal. This customer recently signed a HUGE expansion deal, so excited to celebrate that, share their thought leadership, and also get people hype about this incredible customer advocate.
NP, I think it’d be a different group anyhow. Whatever works for you all. Good luck on the calls Friday.
This is one of my areas of expertise, happy to share best practices and templates that help crack through difficult personalities and sensitive industries. I'm free at that time!
Who can do Friday at 3pm ET (12pm PT)?
oh, I can do later if that’s better @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly). We just have our customer webinar for the Influitive transition right before that
Hi <!everyone> Happy New Year - Happy News…letter 😁 😆
New edition (sent from beehiiv platform) is out today.
Influitive Acquisition - Job Seeker Resources - 2024 Predictions on SaaS & CMA
Works for me also!
Thanks for cross-posting!
But it looks like it works for you all, Have fun.
DUDE - Friday at 2 is our weekly call 😛
me too!
I’m in!
Happy to discuss!
Can you invite Cache @Emily Amos as I don't see him on here?
Happy New Year, everyone! I am the first person in a customer advocacy/community management role at my company. I created and launched our advocacy program, among other initiatives. For a while, I’ve been wanting to create a document that goes into the ins and outs of managing the program, and all the random tasks I do associated with it, so if I’m ever able to build my team or just need to share the processes with someone, it’s there. Has anyone done something similar or had someone give them something similar in their role? Maybe something you were handed down? What was most helpful for you?
I'd love to listen in as well @Ari Hoffman. Cache Walker might be good to have on the call. He's in cybersecurity.
Happy new year all! Huge favor to ask - can anyone share a screenshot of how they've set up their roll up field in hubspot or sfdc for customer marketing activities? In other words, how are you all setting up how you capture reviews, references, referrals, case studies, Speaker engagements, UGC, etc?
Absolutely, @Jenna Feldman
@Ari Hoffman not sure I'll have a ton of best practices to share but would love to join this group to listen in if that's ok!
Hey all. I’m looking to upgrade my Customer Marketing dashboard, with less of an emphasis on Influenced Revenue, but looking to layer in some additional items and options. What are you folks out there doing? Thanks for letting me know and happy new year!! 🎆
Hope everyone had the most amazing holiday and were able to enjoy some time with friends/ family and lots of time to relax!
Question for you all as I look to increase exposure into our advocacy program internally - what tools are you all using to ensure that your program is fully transparent and folks are able to see what you are working on? We are working on a global calendar and creating a committee of Product/ Marketing/ CS/ Events folks that will play “gatekeeper” of their own teams. I am hoping that this will help to increase transparency but wanted to see what else everyone is doing!
Hey everyone! Happy new year! How many of you have goals for totals of G2 reviews you need to reach each month? And what are your feelings about goals for this?
@Shannon Howard honestly a lot of different times! Like if a customer approached us about wanting to do something, or if we knew they were a target for a story and we wanted to approach them. I also feel like the AMs/CSMs used it often in 1:1 conversations with customers.
Let's Talk Community & LMS Integration
Happy new year! As we kick off 2024, I'm curious about how you're weaving communities and LMS platforms together to create engaging experiences for your customers. If you're running both, I'd love to hear about your integration strategy.
• Do you guide customers to the community first for connection and then the LMS for deeper product learning?
• Do your searches fetch both posts and training content?
• Do you use single sign on (SSO) to get from one to the other?
My previous org used an LMS for community and learning. My new org uses SFDC Sites for community and Docebo for learning, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to make it a seamless experience for customers. TY!
For those who have a "menu" of advocacy activities:
• Do you include criteria for recommending a customer?
• Do you include the incentive?
@Katlin Hess When/how was that shared with customers? Interested in doing something similar.
If your company is a Forrester client, the seat holder can share it with you. Here are the highlights.
Forrester’s Marketing Survey, 2023, 21% of B2B marketing decision-makers indicated that their organization’s CMO dashboard includes metrics for community involvement — up from 13% in
. With greater attention comes greater opportunity and responsibility. Too often, community teams rely on measurements such as volume of members to prove how the community contributes to their business. But online community platforms have evolved substantially from siloed discussions and self-serve support resources to hubs for digital interaction, heightening the potential to show community impact in areas such retention, growth, and reputation. Advanced community managers point to the impact of their communities on:• Account engagement
• Expansion opportunities. of surveyed demand and ABM decision-makers indicated that they use community access as a demand marketing tactic, placing the lure of community engagement above static assets such as white papers and price quotes.
• Loyalty that correlates with renewals
• Efficiency through scale
FWIW, I’d be firm about this and collect feedback/info/data and challenge folks to ideate on this vs be too much of sales/marketing channel and break the trust of members.
Totally agree with both sentiments. I like the community to be a safe space and trying to balance the aggressive cross/upsell goals. Happy Holidays!
To me, that’s too sales-y/marketing-y, and I’d encourage y’all to explore options for it. Something that’ll drive actual value for customers and not lead to potential negative feelings about the company/product(s).
It's more the soft approach through education, where there's an overview/teaser of the other feature/product and “lmk if you'd like to speak with an AM” as a CTA. Community needs to be a safe space for customers. They’ll be less likely to engage and give honest feedback if they feel like anything they say will result in a sales pitch.
@ I like your strategy about driving adoption on things they own, vs trying to promote new purchases. You all must have good data ;)
@Joel Primack - Thanks! Regarding the second bullet, they want to add data sheets and/or other product info to drive awareness of available products that the customer can purchase, in addition to what they already own.
Yes I'm facing this issue, most of our customers are from the finanical sectoer and it's very hard for us to get case studis from them
Does anyone deal with highly regulated customers within the financial sector that have both SEC regulations and compliance protocol that make it very hard to get them to want to share their stories? Not just those who can't, but personality traits that make them personally less motivated to engage in advocacy?
If so, would love to get a group together to discuss programs that have worked to get costumers interested.
Let me know who you are
Has anyone hosted a "virtual launch party" before? I threw out the idea to our VP of CS to celebrate customers who are launching their platform, to host a little get-together virtually to celebrate.
My questions:
1. What did the agenda/flow look like?
2. Anything you learned from doing this? Anything you'd do differently or suggest?
3. Did you send them anything? Any favorite gifts? (Was thinking DoorDash gift card, coffee, something like that).
Hello everyone, happy holidays! 🎉 As we ease into the new year, let's chat about Customer Community.
For those overseeing the community, could you share how, or if, you incorporate cross-selling or upselling strategies? With the growing emphasis on retention and renewal, this has become a significant consideration. In the past, many communities steered clear of any cross-selling or upselling. Have your perspectives on this evolved? It could be something as straightforward as making product documentation accessible for exploration, or perhaps it's not on the table at all. Excited to hear your thoughts! 😊
Thank you all - I think I'm going to have everyone wear their own cloths and have lanyards make it obvious who are employees so every is comfortable and feels good about how they look without being forced to wear something that does not feel or fit well.
The fit and the fabric. Feel like tshirts tend to fit better and feel more comfortable.
Hi - for those who have a CAB - do you have a deck for sales/csms to explain what the cab is, why they should care, how they can leverage it, etc that you could share? I have the basic overview slides done, but I need to train sales/csms to think about the cab as something that benefits them, not something that they are doing "for marketing". Thank you!
Thank you all! @Shannon Howard why do you not like polos?
We do a branded staff t-shirt in a different color each day of the conference (in our company colors: blue on day 1, black on day 2, etc.) with whatever pants they want (usually jeans). We leave up to staff to decide if they want to wear a jacket/blazer/hoodie/sweater. We also have a lanyard that is different for staff to make them easier to identify. Our conference is a wear whatever is comfortable environment so we try to make it comfortable for our team too.
A friend forwarded this to me about the acquisition of Influitive by Jigsaw today. Anyone familiar with Jigsaw for customer success? How does it compare to Gainsight and others globally?
@Megan Donaldson at Zoom not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but this was the "advocacy menu" I used at my last company!
Super fun tool I found:
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Hi friends, this holiday season I'm hoping for the gift of a slide, or slides I can repurpose.
I need something to help communicate:
1. when in the customer journey it's appropriate to ask a customer for a case study / success story. Like 1. Contract signed. 2. Product Implemented. 3. Success. 4. Then consider case study.
2. Communicate that a case study is not the only medium for customer content. There are name/logo approvals, quotes, new wins mentioned in earnings, speaking engagements (webinars, thought leadership, owned and 3rd party events), leaving reviews, interviews with analysts or media, etc.
Anyone willing to share?
so fun!
This is a nice post, thanks for sharing here 🙂 Great work!
Gartner Peer Insights just rolled out AI-generated company profile descriptions. Ours was.... bad haha. So heads up to go in and update/ completely replace what they've come up with!
I’m very keen to share it with recruiters LOL
Had a recruiter yesterday tell me that their target salary for a mid-level customer marketer is $81-92 based on their research. I sent them the 2022 report from CMA. I’m curious to see if the numbers have dropped significantly for 2023.
Was midway interviewing with one company and they chopped $30K off their salary range for the role.
Very soon
Does anyone know when the Customer Marketing Alliance’s salary survey for 2023 will be published?
Happy Holidays @Kristine Kukich! - BUT, who’s still working this week?
Hi everyone, does anyone have a nice section (on your website) with CAB members? I googled a bit, there are pros and cons, I don´t wanna overcomplicate, ideally only headshots, name, job title and company (logo).
Interesting -
But, I also feel that this data is self selection - I see this as correlation, not causation - show me people who look identical to those who engage in community, other than the engagement, and compare those people to these ones in terms of GRR and Expansion.
At past companies we had a list and then would print them and have a signing party and however many people could come to the office could sign them and then send it out. We used a vendor that was used for business cards and was done the beginning or first week of December to make sure it would arrive before Christmas. It’s a little late now so not sure it will get there in time depending on where the customers are. Good luck
@Alexie Glover sounds like you're trying to forge a partnership with your partnership team... 😅
Try putting it into WIIFM terms-- what's in it for them to do these things that will help you? How does it help them? You can also just straight out ask them how you can help them achieve their goals. If you're not reporting up to the same exec, then you can also try talking to your exec about how your two teams can align on some KPIs/ goals so you can all row together. That's not just good for you, it's good for the company!
Happy, happy!
ForeverGrot
Hi! I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to get our holiday cards printed for our different team members to write in and send to customers? They live in a different cities around the US - was brainstorming getting them printed at each of their local staples but was wondering if anyone has found a good solution for this?
@Kevin Lau hook us up 😄
Thank you everyone for the feedback and great ideas! I really appreciate your replies.
Monday works for me as well.
I could do Monday - @Jeanne Talbot @Liz Richardson @Ciana Abdollahian @Brooke Wilson @Melissa DiBernardo
Monday at 12 is good for me!
I'm booked until 12:15, and then again from 2-3 on Tuesday. As of now, I could do 12 EST on any other day next week
I'm booked 12-1245 and 3-4 but free rest of the day tuesday
Hi @Kristen Howard I would normally start with the baseline of how many join the community and revisit at launch, expect that to drop after the first month, then at 5-10% each month of active members.
Would next Tuesday work at 12PM EST?
Send away!
Hello!
Looking for feedback into all of the review platforms.
We've saturated G2 and getting great results, but looking into which review site to build out next. Would you all go with Capterra or Trustpilot? Would love your insights. Thank you!
I'd love to listen!
anyone have g2 review request email copy ideas? looking to do something different and tired of my same ol same ol -- thanks!!
Hey there! We are relaunching our community with the goal of getting more engagement (very little engagement today). What would a good goal be for recurring community users with a 4,000 customer base?
Hey @Rebecca Grossman - Just had our annual conference in early November. We had a few specific upsells to position. We did a variety of things:
• incorporated the top 2 in the main stage opening
• incorporated both in the product roadmap session
• each upsell had its own specific "deep dive" breakout session (scanned name badges of those who came)
• had a specific kiosk in the exhibit hall dedicated to upsells - it was 2-sided with an additional demo desk next to it (3 screens total for demos and looping videos)
• Announced a sales promotion via mobile app (push notification) available at the kiosk - prior to the event, we used this teaser to promote app downloads (stay up to date, networking opportunities, and, oh yeah, deals to save money on products).
• There was a huge video display screen in the lobby area of our event space and part of the looping video highlighted 2 upsell products and had QR codes to landing page with the sales promotion.
Hope that gives you a few ideas!
We are going to survey our customers to find out how customers would like to participate in our community (user groups, online communities, events, etc.) Any suggestions of questions we should be asking them?
I know i'm late to the party, but well done @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)!
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) Congrats!!
We've landed our biggest customer (ever) and now we need to create a whole marketing-driven onboarding program. I've, candidly, never done this type of work before and will take any and all guidance from this circle of brilliant and experienced minds. Playbooks, examples, templates, advice, partners who do this well, etc. Thank you friends!
DANG BEAUTIFUL! @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)
I was traveling so missed seeing this yesterday. What awesome news to come back to today! Congrats @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)!
Fantastic work @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)!
Thank you for all that you do. 👏 👏 👏
I feel like this was asked a while ago but anyone have a post-CAB survey they're willing to share? trying to get inspired and my brain is not there lol
Does anyone have a description of the differentiators between Capterra, GetApp and SoftwareAdvice? Looking for differentiation in buyer persona as well as use cases. Thanks!!
@Kevin Swecker bit of a convo about Tremendous here
Hi all - what external programs do you use to run referral programs? Researching a few now, but really looking to implement a referral program for our self-service portion of the business. Any experience folks have had with software like Tremendous, Referral Rock, Nicejob, Referral Factory, or InviteReferrals?
quick win that we're hosting our CAB today (virtually) and 50% of our members are women! the coolest to see so many women on my screen ❤️
We're planning to offer a spiff for sales and other groups that work directly with customers, to incentivize them to refer customers for case studies. Has anyone done this successfully? What were the keys to setting up the program properly?
There was another post in the CMA community from a member who this also happened to last week. She was posting to warn others to check their renewals ... but the post has been deleted.
Does anyone have any recommendations for vendors who you have used to create your customer awards with? I am looking to design something slightly custom that I can start a project now, then in March provide names and have them shipped out by early Apri.
My annual PMA membership renewed when I was on vacation. They send one reminder email and then 3 days later charge you. My former company paid for the membership but I was laid off from that role back in March and I have no need for the PMA any more. PMA refuses to refund me (sent a 7 paragraph email about why). Instead of being out $700 for nothing, I'd like to see if anyone here wants it. It's the executive level and you can access CMA content from there, I believe. I'm not even positive they'll let me transfer it but if someone wants it I can certainly try.
It’s so complex 🫠 I’ve been working with “the actions we know successful customers take” as @Katlin Hess mentioned … but it requires a deep partnership with partner marketing/CSM org which I haven’t found to be particularly easy (really depends on company culture). I’m basically asking a different team to report “milestones” that are adding to their to-do list. With what you’ve shared above, I’d probably begin my testing with email campaigns tied to customer age vs maturity (knowing that most customers take X days/months to reach X stage), review engagement and then actually touch base with a number of customers/CSMs who have received the emails and engaged to check your work. Starting small and then building when you have a foundation to rely on. Not perfect … but a starting point
I wish we had something even close to this 😭 that's super cool though!
@Ciana Abdollahian it's a crazy algorithm that our product team built and tracks and then pushes into Salesforce. But basically it's a 0-5 score comprised of "have they taken the actions we know successful customers take" and "how many monthly active users do they have at their account" (and there are different thresholds for each segment)
These are awesome tips.
Agree with Jan and Katlin, there's an opportunity for a nurture highlighting benefits and tracking engagement there.
I'd also consider the difference between account onboarding and individual/admin onboarding. Most products have different types of users. You might need some activities to be done by only one person on the account, which is where you might want to track account level metrics and not just individual metrics.
I always laugh when I see "product utilization does not equal adoption" because please tell me what other metric you're measuring to track adoption. 😂 The only way I can make sense of that is that some customers may use your product for ONE main thing and be happy, even if they don't use all the other features. Or only one person on the account might use a feature, and that's considered success.
@Katlin Hess how do you determine adoption score for your second bullet point?
@Ciana Abdollahian we measure it on both a program level and a cohort level plus we share the top-line MAU number with Product and Product Marketing. It's far from perfect and fairly manual, but as we're building out the program the metrics I am looking at are:
• Onboarding nurture stream engagement (% open, CTR)
• Avg adoption score of nurture stream participants (and compare that to the overall average)
• % of nurture stream participants that have "successfully completed onboarding activities" (for us this means profile completeness, have run a review campaign and have at least 10 reviews)
Hi friends, for those who are responsible for Onboarding & Adoption
marketing? How do you measure Marketing's influence? My biggest concern is the lack of customer data or accuracy of that data. Also, our customer journey is pretty complex (our CS team identified 15 steps for a customer to be onboarded 🤯). I recommended we start with a few milestones but that will still rely on product and ops being able to get product data into our CRM. My team is afraid that we're not going to be able to show impact so it's hard to get them motivated so hoping I can think of some quick wins to help build momentum that are realistic & measurable.
Has anyone started with simple metrics to show the value of onboarding & adoption that isn't reliant on other teams/data? If so, what have you done?
Has anyone here participated in Reforge or Pavilion? Curious to hear your experiences on each. What did you like? What was it worth it?
👋 Hi All! G2 Reviews: does anyone have a good process or strategy for G2 Reviews? I have not used them in years, but in my new gig, we are focusing on getting more reviews. Would love to hear tips, best practices etc! Thank you :)
Hi all - I'm looking for inspiration - does anyone have an image of how you organize your advocacy program across all customers - similar to the Marketo mountain one? Thank you!
Congrats @Joel Klettke for the invite to MozCon!!!!!!!!! make us proud
Thank you, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) for providing valuable insights into the four types of customer advocates. I find this information extremely useful. My follow up question is how a brand can categorize advocates into these four buckets? What specific cues should brands be attentive to in order to understand customers better across various social platforms?
Hi All! Would love some group input-- I am planning a Christmas campaign with a series of 6 emails throughout December with product tips and tricks. I want to tie in some sort of gamification to it to get people to engage with the emails more.. first I thought of adding a secret word to each email to make up a sentence that they would fill out in a form at the end in order to receive a gift - but they're going to have to opt in to the full series so some people won't get all the emails/won't be able to complete secret puzzle... Anyone have other ideas I could incorporate to make this more "Fun"? 😄 TIA!! ⛄
Hi all! I’m hoping to chat with others using Influitive to leverage reviews. I’m looking to identify some benchmarks for a new program and having a hard time finding metrics to compare with. Thanks in advance!
I’m writing a description of the different review companies, does anyone have any thoughts to share on Capterra, GPI, Trust Radius or PeerSpot? I’ll credit you if you’d like.
I do remember someone mentioning this, maybe last year, but I haven’t seen it come up often. If I find it, I’ll let you know.
Too funny and also too relateable
Our exec team is asking for a strategy brief/document for Customer Gifting in 2024. Does anyone have an example of something like this? I'm having a hard time getting started and would love to see what others have done. 🙂
anyone from this group at AWS re:Invent in Las Vegas this week? Would love to meet up with other customer marketers if anyone else is here!
Hi all! At my company we have a ton of customers who do speaking engagements, participate in our user groups, customer stories, webinars, etc. BUT we don’t have a formal “advocacy program.” We just have a ton of advocates and it’s great! Our leadership wants to see more of a brand behind our advocates and community (think Trailblazers) and I’m not sure how to introduce one without introducing a formal advocacy program. Has anyone here been able to do something similar and have examples/anything they are willing to share?
Hi there! Jumping on this thread to see if anyone has any best practices to share.. we are moving towards more Enterprise size deals and working with stakeholders across the company to plan out the onboarding experience for an Enterprise account. Can anyone share the type(s) of onboarding nurtures you've built, as well as any playbooks you've shared with your Customer Success teams? We are looking at building an "Onboarding Kit" that would encompass key resources to get started: guides, tutorial videos, email templates, recorded training sessions, timeline of implementation/onboarding, etc. that the internal buyer/champion can use if they choose to roll-out our technology to their team. If anyone has any ideas or recommendations on what you've seen work, I'd appreciate your help!
@Ashley Ward do any of your customer facing teams like CS or Account Owners use a tool like Fathom or Gong? Or record calls? We use fathom internally and some of our best customer stories come during casual calls with the CSM. You could feed a variation of these questions to the CSM’s managing accounts who have expanded, “Why was just using product A not cutting it for your team? What was your Ah-hah moment when you realized that product B would help you with X use case? What advice would you give to another customer thinking of going down the path of bringing in product B that isn't sure yet?” With Fathom/gong, the AE/CSM can highlight the response (video or audio) and send it over to you for cleanup and usage on social or in expansion campaigns or assets.
This would be my approach, and make sure to identify what the CSMs favorite “donuts” are (an expression from a VP of CMA at CustomerXCon) and lay out the “what's in it for me” of them adding this question to their next check-in call. If they're overprotective of clients, explain that this will actually save the client time in the end because they won't need to do a whole new customer story about this! I would imagine if CSMs care about renewals, that should be enough intrinsic motivation, but just a few ideas for if not!
@Vera Flores I have a whole DRIVE advocacy model that has evolved over the years, but it’s aimed much more at the practitioner/champion level than the C-Suite
I love that approach @Irwin Hipsman thank you for sharing. Maybe it’s time to get you on another call to share your thoughts on customer marketing and demand gen.
Let me know if you need any help @Amanda Peacock 🧡
in my mind i responded to this thread thanks so much all! appreciate your inputs -- i think i'll build out my vision in asana for people to react to and have a mini governance team.
Hi Contact! As lives get busier through the end of the year, I wanted to catch up with you on the case study. We had such positive discussions earlier on this, so we've finalized the timeline for publication as follows: Your final review date, publication date, follow up date. If you can't fit it in, we'll proceed with anonomizing it until you and your teams can get through the necessary reviews.
Thanks @Marie Elliott & @Joel Klettke, appreciate the suggestions. The client renewed with limited friction earlier this Fall which is why I’ve been at a bit of a loss about where we’re getting stuck and how to keep it moving.
Unconventional idea:
Send a gift basket to the POC. It may be enough to jostle an approval loose and remind them.
Or, if there's a time-sensitive feature you could get them in (your newsletter, customer of the month, etc.) send a request w/a deadline.
Be careful about the anonymous route because it can make a bad situation worse at times if they feel like you went around them and recognize themselves in the piece -- a remote risk, but one nonetheless.
Candidly, it sounds like the relationship may be going downhill. I'd opt for one of two things 1)Get executive weight behind it. Can you have a CEO to CEO outreach buttering them up on how important they are as a client and how you want to shout their success? Or 2) Publish anonymously and revisit updating to a named when things get back to healthy. When is renewal on the account? That may be a good indicator of timelines for them and you.
I also like to think about multi-threading - different contacts for different types of advocacy activities from the same customer bringing different perspectives.
Thanks for sharing @Kevin Lau . I love the visualization of mapping of what a new customer vs. an experienced customer is more likely to do.
Thank you all so much!! So many great examples, I appreciate it!
@Ashley Ward - my favorite is the "case study lite" - three questions in video format (1) who are you (what does your organization do, how do you fit into your organization); (2) why us? (what made you buy our product or service?); (3) what does your program look like in 18 - 24 months? This gave us enough info to leverage. And it only takes about an hour - although you could certainly automate it even more than I did the last time around.
@Ashley Ward I think I've seen @Kristine Kukich talk about a customer spotlight series that she runs that sounds similar in format/delivery to the Salesforce example you provided. Maybe she could help?
Have done this so many ways.
We have had a shared calendar with a stakeholder planning meeting each quarter. This was at a smaller company.
At another company we had an in-app guide playbook with style guide designed by product and UX teams. We could only launch one center guide a month and one corner guide (on the main dashboard, notifications on other pages were exceptions). And customer marketing worked with product team Pendo owner to determine which guides were set for which months. These guides were used for marketing. Product launched tool tips throughout the month and managed the resource center, which we could share information to be included. I met bi-weekly with my Product counterpart who owned Pendo, so we communicated often regarding this channel as we used it heavily for upsell and even used it to score interactions in-app.
At my current company we use WalkMe and CS owns it and everyone goes through them (I do not recommend this method).
WalkMe has a lot of issues and we haven't gotten them fixed, but someone right before they left signed a 3 year contract 🙃 so we're trying to make it work. I do believe we'll be looking at Pendo (woo hoo) when able. And product will own it.
@Irwin Hipsman would love to learn more about your governance team — what functions were represented?
anyone managing in app comms? any recommendations of how you're doing this/keeping a schedule/ record of everything? ideally something that people can reference even if they aren't actively using the tool (AppCues/Pendo)
Hi everyone! Looking for some inspiration! Does anyone have different types/levels of customer stories? Like stories that are focused on one specific use case rather than your standard overall story? Any examples to share?
Background: This week we ran some workshops w/sellers around customer expansion and the primary feedback was that they need more customer examples/stories around specific use cases that could lead to growth.
I'm thinking about something like a series of templatized micro-stories, but would love to hear how others are approaching this. Thanks! 🙂
Yes - Shannon, we are doing that too. Thank you!
Hi everyone - I'm leading our customer conference in March. Our agenda is 80% done, but we are still sourcing customer speakers. My concern is that 80% of my speakers are currently men. I really want it to be 50/50. I have told everyone internally that we need more women, but unfortunately many of our biggest brands/most senior level folks are men. Any suggestions how to find more women? Can I ask our men customer contacts if there are women on their team would could speak instead of them??
we’re on
NP 🙂
Unfortunately a meeting I can't miss got moved to your call time today. Apologies! It's with my CMO so I can't skip it.
NP!
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I'm going to try to make the call today but most likely will be late. Dealing with some time sensitive stuff at work!
@Bree Bunzel - Just a few comments as we are knee deep in our upcoming CAB.
• We hold 2 in person meetings a year - 2 virtual meetings with more of a specific theme around something we discussed in the in person meeting.
• On zoom we only meet for about 60 minutes and provide pre - reads of the meeting
• We started recruiting (if needed) about 3 months prior to the meeting. This allows time in case someone drops and we need to fill that seat
• We have our members sign a media release - this way anything that we capture in the meeting could possible be used for video references and such
• We don’t have any type of membership criteria - at least that we share with the member 🙂.
We have a very similar approach to Zylo (probably because Amanda super generously shared her CAB stuff as I was getting mine started )
We paid for lodging, transportation (although a lot of our attendees were within driving distance) and we provided a welcome reception and dinner, all meals on meeting day and breakfast on the last day.
Hi @Crystal Anderson - Could you please share with me as well. Thank you.
Does anyone have a customer facing one pager that explains your CAB that you could share? I need to get one to my execs tomorrow so they can send to potential CAB members to get them excited about joining and would love to see what others have done. TY!!
Hi Friends! We've been heads down on a few projects (including our conference that kicked off today in London), so I've been MIA for a while. But since there is a moment to breathe right now, I just wanted to say HI again to all of you wonderful people. So HELLO and Happy Tuesday all around!
💯 but there will eventually be big consolidations as the bigger fish start acquiring more and more ancillary solutions. Such is life in the Saas market! Well… any market in capitalism 🤪
I think I prefer the integrate with many and excel in one thing (best-in-class) specifically!
Community is mimicking where the intranet space was 5-7 years ago! And these integrations are super smart and will be powerful for adoption
In communities for customers, do y’all segment it/create dedicated spaces by company size (SMB/startup, MM, Enterprise)?
Happy Monday All! 👋
We are working to re-introduce CABs to Dropbox, do any of you have industry stats (or your own stats) on how CABs increase customer retention, upsell/cross-sell, revenue?
• We had an inconsistent program pre-COVID so there wasn't enough momentum to show this with enough data over time, looking for guidance 🙏
Does anyone have a slide that highlights the badges you've earned on G2? I got an ask for a customer for some examples and I know I've seen some before, but of course I can't find them now!
Hi all! I’m new to this community/customer marketing in general -- thank you @Kyle Tansley, for the intro 🙂
Reaching out as my team and I are building a cohesive customer marketing/comms calendar that includes touchpoints from our CS, DG, comms, and PM teams for a bird's eye view on how much we are currently communicating with customers for future alignment.
Does anyone have experience pulling this kind of calendar together? If so, what platform worked best for you ( Asana, Google Sheets, etc.) to ensure the list has complete insights to all customer comms and is customizable to each internal team?
Looking forward to hearing some thoughts from you all, and thank you again for letting me be a part of the community!!
Hi all! Wondering what everyone is doing for holiday gifts this year. Last year I sent out gifts to around 200 of our top VIP customer contacts (Selected by the CS team). This year I am on the fence since its so difficult to tie the spend directly to ROI and budgets are tight. Considering maybe top 50 instead of top 200. Anyone have any other ideas for low spend/free alternatives (besides standard holiday greetings, emails etc)?
I really like Asana's!
Hi! Wondering if anyone markets to web developers who are allergic to Sales and Marketing? 😳
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at 2PM ESTHappy Friday All! I have a question about multithreading in customer accounts- has anyone done a program(s) to help support their CS team’s efforts to connect with more people at an account?
Love the partnership route as an alternative to the buy vs build one’s too, Rachel!
We just announced a partnership with ChurnZero. Instead of buying they're integrating with us (LMS). And, they're partnering with Higher Logic as well, seems to be the new way!
Exciting stuff.
Congrats and congrats! Such a sweet boy!
Any community platform without an LMS or a tight LMS integration is a poor choice at this point. It's the future.
Hi all! 👋 I'd love to use this 🧠 brain trust to understand how your CEO is engaging with customers?
• Is this intentional and mapped out for the year (ie. CAB, roundtables, lunch with customers as they travel to different cities, EBRs)
• What engagements are most impactful for customers & the CEO/leadership team?
One of our key company priorities next year is a customer focus, starting from the top 🙏 - and I'm keen to get some inspiration!
Thanks for sharing here, Mary!
Thank you @Ornella Mariño and @Meg O'Hearn for your feedback and input
For those of you overseeing case studies, particularly Enterprise case studies - a few questions.
• How many case studies per quarter do you typically commit to?
• How long does it typically take you from identifying a customer to publishing the actual case study?
(Playing around with changing some Q4 targets and would love to hear what others are doing 😊)
Hi! CSAT question(s) for you all!
1. How often are you sending? Do you send quarterly or after a specific event?
2. If sending in bulk via your ESP - what do your open rates/ click rates look like?
Appreciate hearing what you all have to say!
Thanks @Amanda Peacock
I have two things im been thinking through.
- Something(s) to welcome/thank someone from handraising for advocacy
- Items that would be great for new years Also agree that a well items message + giftcard sometimes could be the best 😛
@Aadhi this entirely depends on the culture of your org! If you are a majority Slack org, I recommend working where the people already are. If most things happen via email, send them there.
Hello! Looking for some information here. Has anyone actively tracked lead generation/done lead attribution back to your customer assets? (case studies, pdfs, etc) If yes, what is the good standard to aim for? Is there any benchmarking done on this? We're starting from scratch and want to know what is a good goal to set for lead attribution against customer stories and related assets. Looking for data for B2B SaaS space.
hi @Julie Neumeister 👋, I just came across this thread. Would you be open to sharing what you discussed with Kevin? I'm in new role taking something like this on and was hoping to get inspiration. Thank you!
I’ve included partners, I’d suggest making guidelines specifically for them. They usually have a lot to add to the conversations.
We are creeping up on holiday gift giving time 🎁 - curious what your teams have done to make custom individual gifts for customers. We would like to print a sentence with a metric unique to each customer that they are proud of but not sure how to scale this for our top 100 customers and would like the item to be functional and not just a frame for a desk. For example a notebook that says on the cover "Your team made a difference in 100 people's lives this year." but that '100' changes for each customer.
hey @Preston! so it kind of depends on budget/vibes -- for every reference call we facilitate I send a simple gift card through tremendous, for surprise and delight gifting we do themed items based on the campaign, etc so I think it depends on use case/budget but if you throw some scenarios out there I can give you some ideas!
hi all -- does anyone work at Lattice or have connections there? A friend of mine is applying for the open Customer Marketing role and would love a leg up. Thanks a bunch!
hi everyone! Looking to get peoples take on when to send NPS/CSAT surveys. I've always worked with CS teams that would send them out after touchpoints like after onboarding is done, after a support ticket is closed, post QBR at at specific time intervals (every 3 months). What has been your org's experience?
Hi everyone! Does anyone here invite partners to participate in your customer communities? If so, what kinds of things do you invite them to participate in and what kinds of guidelines do you have in place? My hesitation is that the space becomes too sales-y and that it takes away from our customers sharing.
@Kati Jacobson figured as much. Hope you get the answers you’re looking for!
@Scott Stransky Yeah, I spoke with a few people there already and wanted to know what others experience is with their community.
Hey y'all looking for some ideas to delight advocates!
Currently it's been more mental math and sticky notes keeping tabs of which folks love us, in the past i've relied more on CRM and tagging - looking to get back to this to enable / educate our team (and track growth)
👉 MY QUESTION IS: What are some well received things you've done for hand raisers willing to be advocates for your company?
Thank you 🙂
Very comprehensive - thanks @Shannon Howard
I am sure this thread already exists, but I can't find anything today.
What are some of your favorite customer stories? I am looking for inspiration (have a few) but would love to see what everyone else has shared they think are killer stories/formats/etc.?
Thanks!
Just catching up on this thread and was going to tag @Katlin Hess but see she already chimed in 😄
Id love to see as well!
I think champions would love that. So far I haven’t seen a stellar platform that has made this uber successful. I think it’s more about the strategy and approach used with something like Zoom or Hopin.
Hi all! Does anyone have a platform recommendation for casual coffee chat/networking virtually? ☕
We are exploring this as an activity for our Champions and curious what others have done! 🙂
For folks running award programs: are you using a platform to power your awards program? In the process of evaluating the vendors in the space and would love to hear your input!
I've personally used AwardForce and have been in conversation with OpenWater.
Hi everyone! Would love to hear about your tried and true ways to drive peer to peer engagement in your communities?
Our community has been live for about a year now and our membership is growing steadily as is the number of questions that customers are posting. Today, we're mainly working with internal teams to get answers but we'd like to shift this to have more customers answering each others questions. What are some of the things you do to drive this behaviour?
@Katlin Hess yes! I think saw screenshots of this in your CustomerXCon deck! That would be awesome 😀
Hi Everyone
I’m creating a pitch deck to try and convince our Exec level team that we need to invest in the services of a certain peer review site.
The big question that will be asked is as follows: ‘How do you drive retention and growth through positive Customer Reviews?’
I feel like the answers I am coming up with are very fluffy (e.g. Share on social media to drive awareness and confidence).
Does anyone have ideas for more hard hitting answers?
Hey All! My company’s NPS data, while valuable, isn’t getting surfaced in ways that let us take action easily, and I’m trying to fix that.
If you’re using NPS, are you using one single tool to gather responses or multiple, and where are you surfacing that data? How are you ensuring that the people who need NPS data are able to use it in a way that fits into their workflows?
Thank you in advance for helping me gather insights to put an end to our current messy situation
Has anyone created Sales Playbooks for Onboarding/Adoption that complements/reinforces what you're doing from a customer marketing perspective?
e.g. Here are the resources you should send to your customer in the first 30 days or adoption is low here are programs/resources you should suggest?
Morning! Has anyone been able to get into the Customer Marketing Allience’s event today?
does anyone own appcues at their org? or at least help build things out from the marketing side?
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Such a timely topic. I’ve recently joined a customer marketing role that reports to the demand gen lead. It’s been a challenge to set goals for my projects that align with the KPI’s of the team ( MQLs, sales qualified opportunities, pipeline) even when it comes to up sell/cross sell plays. 😅
@Rebecca Grossman I would too. Please share if you run across any.
@Michael Sciano Completely agree!
This distinction is the best and worst part of this industry. So much we still have to frame up but so much potential once we do!
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@Kevin Lau what date works for you? Can you add it here?
You should check out the call with Ciana Abdollahian from CMAweekly - it was in March and it was all about the executive program at Snyk.
Love this - it's my goal to transform how we execute customer stories going forward with a bigger focus on "how to guides" - I would love to see more examples.
I am too - let's talk!
Is anyone running executive-level advocacy groups/outreach? Curious to see what the most successful program elements have been for anyone who has done them before. Working on building out an executive program now!
Canvas to choose a date to host Open Discussion:
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) and we can chat about it.Are any of you creating customer stories that go beyond the traditional challenge/solution/results? For example, are any of you doing implementation stories? Or adoption stories? Or stories where your customers share their best practices? Or any other type of stories?
oh for sure! I am used to writing short item surveys from doing undergraduate research but that was based in pyshcology and not marketing lol - I think with our customers the shorter and more direct question the better
Happy to dive into feedback form design/Qs, Emily, since I love them (especially building them on Typeform), but I’d ask a clear, direct question on your main attendee goal of it to report on and benchmark against future ones 😊
thank you @Joel Primack
Happy Thursday!
Does anyone have a Customer Marketing career track template the can share? Of all the content I “travel” with from company to company, that’s the one I continually fail to bring with me when I jump. I’ve done these so many times with HR. I just don’t want to start over again. If anyone has template for the progression from Customer Marketing Associate, Manager, Sr Manager, Director, Sr Director, that would be great. Thanks!
Hey Everyone -
Looking for folks who've created an "elite community group" within your communities, The best of the best. Customers who stand out amongst the crowd and have earned elite status.
Looking for best practices on creating a group like that.
Hi there, does anyone here run a weekly customer advocacy/stories meeting with stakeholders and have a meeting template they use. What I’d imagine would be useful to cover is case studies pipeline, field marketers share wishlist or updates on interesting deals closed, etc. anything else I’m missing?
Someone is looking for warehouse and logistics, not direct mail - Ideas on where to send them?
I would love to be added!
There is a CustomerX Con channel let me know if you need an invite #customerxcon - I won’t be there, between 1 of my son’s having a birthday and another 1 having stomach issues still, it just wasn’t going to pan out 😞 Please take pics and videos and share EVERYTHING with me. 😄
Who is ready to Accelerate in Boston? I'm inbound and looking for all friendlies :)
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I'm working on ideas to get more plugged in to our customers so I can build better relationships. One idea I have is that I get introduced as part of the onboarding/implementation process for our top customers. Has anyone done this? If so, when do you get introduced? How is it positioned? Any learnings?
Just started a new gig and picking up their virtual user conference.
I have done these before but it's been a minute since virtual and I know those tend to lag in attendance.
Those here who do these virtual events, do you vote 2 half days back to back or one full day (starting later morning)?
Thanks in advance!
Hello all, We are working closely with G2 and their CSM and having great success with reviews, but would love to hear from you how you are leveraging badges, grid reports, overall content you are getting from G2?
@Amanda Peacock I love the idea of customer content around special days like International Women's Day!
Thanks for this folks! Really helpful. And thanks @Sarah Koval and @Gareth Wilson for sharing those examples!
Last call for the mentorship program:
You may be amazed how just changing the wording changes the participation!
thanks everyone!!
Video testimonial
Podcasts
Customer webinars
Video reviews from customers on sites like G2
I love all these ideas, @Joel Klettke! Thanks for taking the time to respond back to me.
I haven't been focussed on the wording and just realised there are so many ways of making this ask. I think I've always gone head on saying we needed to document a case study and never went this direction. Thanks for the perspective! 🙂
Curious! Besides customer stories, what other types of customer content are you creating?
Named Case Studies vs Masked Case Studies
I work with some customers who are super secretive in having their name associated with the case studies that we create. I want to focus more on creating more named case studies, but increasingly, I've been getting approval to document only masked case studies. Although they are great stories, I can't help but feel like this is not as impactful as a named case study. It's a challenge currently as my pool of customer collaterals is steadily increasing, but with the majority of them being masked stories.
Have any of you experienced this? I'd love to hear your insights on obtaining approvals for more named case studies.
Hello everyone, does anyone have an event list for the next 6 months? I know there's the big CustomerX conference next week, but unfortunately I can't be there. Maybe with a focus on content - I already googled it, but many events start from May/June 2024.
If you were going to join the Deeto call on Scaling Advocacy today, it has been rescheduled to Oct 23rd due to the conflict in Israel.
Does anyone have experience with customer stories that feature polarizing brands? Interested to hear your creative solutions! I'm currently working through the mental gymnastics of a brand that sells weapons but is very interested in telling their story and has a particularly interesting use case. I'm hesitant to suggest that we anonymize the story, as I know the customer is excited about their use case.
Hello everyone! Does anyone have experience with the Customer Marketing Alliance, specifically one of the paid membership tiers? Would love any feedback on experiences anyone has had with it and pros/cons. Thanks!! (
)Hey all, we had a really helpful call for anyone job seeking on Friday. Here’s the link:
Does anyone have a document or a list of customer marketing/advocacy metrics that you track that you can share? I track the obvious: # of case study, reviews, videos, testimonials, references, engagement in email, # of advocates, and recruitment. What are some other good metrics that you have used such as attribution (I have an ROI calculation) or calculated to get buy in from executives and to get budget? Thank you in advance.
Happy Friday everyone! Who has used Orca and can give me the pro's and con's of the platform and use cases? All or any information would be greatly appreciated.
@Jake Sotir 🙂
Live with Claudia (career coach)
Hi everyone - do you have a separate communication about product updates? Or is that included in your newsletter? And assuming you have a monthly newsletter, what percent of it (roughly) is typically focused on product updates? Thank you.
Hello all! My name is Laura and I’ve just joined the group and the conversations look amazing. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with testimonial.to or any other video testimonial collection software. Would love to hear your experiences! Thanks in advance.
“Increased levels of collective intelligence occur when you have diverse groups within a setting.” - just read this on Headway 😄 from Rebel Ideas
Hey all, question for you! I have a customer who did a case study with us and we were in the final phases of getting approval and then today learned that they have a new head of marketing who doesn't want to do the case study because they don't want their competitors to know their trade secrets. Any ideas for objection handling here? I know I can always anonymize the story, but looking for a way to potentially convince them it's a good idea to share their story!
@Emily Stanze Also worth popping in on these calls (Fridays at 2pm Eastern)
Hi everyone! My name is Emily and I am pretty new to the Customer Marketing realm. I work as a Customer Marketing Manager for a technology company. I had been following Leslie Barrett on linkedin and subscribed to her. I am hoping to grow in my career and personal development with marketing and customer success. Does anyone have recommendations on certificates or courses? I have a bachelors with a double major in psychology and art, and pursing my masters in HR
Hi - my PMM team is rethinking how they announce new product releases to customers - does anyone have a document outlining roles/responsibilities between PMM and Customer Marketing (for the lifecycle, engagement part of the role) - eg who does what, and how are you informing customers of feature launches, enhancements, etc. Thank you!
id be happy to chat about how that might interface with reference edge (im very salesforce API literate but haven't ever used that part of their api)
it can do whatever you want it to (because whatever you use for the middle automation layer can pull data from anything you have access to via an api IE product usage data, your crm, etc
@Rachel Ward It's all in our speakers, I think. We usually build two tracks of speakers in the afternoon and make the keynotes memorable. With that - we'll see most of the keynotes up at the 70 - 75% marker. The other sessions may come in lower.
chiming in from the cheap seats @Jake Sotir and @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) - we wanted to come up with a unique brand mascot so we let our creative agency run wild a bit. they came back with a few different options and we liked Dali for a few reasons: it's very different for a B2B startup, plus Dali's mustache and facial expressions play nicely with the bottom U part of the UserEvidence logo (happy or sad).
i loved it from the jump but was very nervous to see how buyers and B2B marketers would react to it. the response has been amazing so far. we're going to keep pushing it forward
Scaling Advocacy & Content Creation - next Tuesday join me and @ from Deeto to discuss how to overcome some of the issues in scaling your customer story and testimonials efforts. 🙂
RSVP:
Why I’m looking forward to it: I’ve been focused on scaling advocacy as I’m creating a course around it, right now. This presentation will cover a few topics I hadn’t considered so I’m excited to help others learn more, too. <!everyone>
That looks very polished! I just used a much more basic doc to share my contact info and the panel questions.
Hi! Has anyone automated a flow to monitor online communities that look for customers who consistently provide helpful advice or promote your brand and ask them to be advocates??
Oh, whoops, just seeing the contractual requirements. Oof, I don't have that, it's always just been "customer will participate in... within X timeframe"
Thanks @Alana Merdzan!
Wow congrats on this @Evan Huck, this is a huge accomplishment! 🥳
Hi all, thank you for replying. @Austin does your bot only capture form responses? Or does it also churn out case studies and other recommended assets upon request as well?
Here's a pretty basic one--I hope it helps!
Customer Marketing Specialist:
Skills and Abilities:
Strong communication skills (both written and verbal).
Basic understanding of marketing principles.
Ability to analyze customer data and draw insights.
Proficiency with marketing software and tools (e.g., CRM, email marketing platforms).
Willingness to learn and adapt to changing customer needs.
Attention to detail and organizational skills.
Collaborative mindset and the ability to work in a team.
Customer Marketing Manager:
Skills and Abilities:
Proficient in customer segmentation and targeting strategies.
Strong project management skills to coordinate marketing campaigns.
Data analysis expertise for optimizing customer journeys.
Experience in creating and executing customer engagement programs.
Proficiency in customer advocacy and referral marketing.
Ability to collaborate cross-functionally.
Strategic thinking and ability to develop customer-centric marketing strategies.
Senior Customer Marketing Manager:
Skills and Abilities:
Advanced knowledge of customer lifecycle management.
Mastery of marketing automation and personalization techniques.
Exceptional data analytics skills for deep customer insights.
Expertise in customer retention and loyalty programs.
Strong leadership and strategic planning capabilities.
Ability to develop and manage a customer marketing budget.
Director of Customer Marketing:
Skills and Abilities:
Comprehensive understanding of customer journey mapping and optimization.
Proficiency in customer advocacy and ambassador programs.
Exceptional data-driven decision-making skills.
Ability to drive customer-centric culture throughout the organization.
Strong leadership, team management, and mentoring abilities.
Extensive experience in defining and achieving customer marketing KPIs.
Strategic thinking for long-term customer engagement and growth.
Senior Director/VP of Customer Marketing:
Skills and Abilities:
Visionary leadership with a deep understanding of customer marketing trends.
Proficiency in creating and executing customer-centric strategies at scale.
Ability to influence and align the organization around customer-focused goals.
Exceptional data analytics skills for predicting customer behavior.
Expertise in customer experience design and optimization.
Strong collaboration with C-level executives and cross-functional leadership.
Accountability for overall customer satisfaction, retention, and advocacy.
Kristine, what do you do for such stellar attendance?
I’m looking for a customer advocacy/engagement career matrix. Anyone willing to share? Job skills and role from specialist to people manager.
Absolutely obsessed with this kind of publicity, as long as it's @Andru Creighton's face and not mine 😂
We have about 500 people registered for our sessions next week via cVent, so recordings will also be available, but we usually see about 75% attendance from registrations.
How do y'all showcase your metrics to leadership? Do you have a BI tool? Slide deck?
Hi! Is anyone running a sales reference call program? If yes, are you/how are you vetting your current customers who are jumping on calls with prospects? For context, I have a bunch of people who volunteered () but I don’t know very many of them personally.
Events people. It's been a hot minute since I've hosted a virtual conference (moved back to in person last couple years).
Is there anything new or just something that's working for your to get "butts in virtual seats" and have people attend? I feel like virtual is hard these days as we're all burnt out on it.
Thanks in advance!
Revinate
Anyone ever seen a B2B company do "Customer of the Month" effectively? Any examples that come to mind?
Hello friends! At CustomerXCon next month, @Daniel Palay and @Cara Peterson are hosting a panel on customer communications.
Myself, @Jeanne Talbot, and Alison Zak will be on the panel.
My question for y'all is: What customer communications questions would you like to see the panel address?
We have a member wondering about anyone using RocketLane - do you use it?
What are you working on this week? What wins or roadblocks are you seeing? I’d love to know 😄
Anyone have a checklist or customer comms & marketing plan for a product launch? I'm starting to pull the pieces together but want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
Hi all has anyone set up a programatic customer reference submission/nomination process and a customer reference finding/search tool for their company? Anything done via slack (ie bots) or you might have a better solution? Plus points if it works with reference edge, saleseforce’s app.
@Emily Smith this is interesting! Did your business ops team build this for you? curious how you created the open reference request aspect
Open discussion
NOWI am the only customer marketer in the company and it's a new position. I report to the Head of Product Marketing but spend my days with the Customer Success team.
Hi All - I've noticed there is a trend towards cutting back on gifting efforts to save money and focus on sustainability. What is this group's sentiment around holiday client appreciation gifts? Seems like people expect to receive something during this time but it's often more work to stand up than it's worth, not to mention the costs 🎁
hey everyone 👋 i am wondering if there’s anyone here who oversees owning Reddit as a channel, and how you balance said channel with your own community platform/efforts. we are gearing up for a community launch soon, and leadership wants us to have a “plan” in place for our brand’s subreddit, which is a bit of a ghost town, save the occasional support question or frustrated vent. i have some concerns/thoughts that i would like to hash out with someone who has had experience striking a balance between these two community channels.
if this is something you have experience, with, i’d love to chat over a (virtual) coffee on me ☕ — please send me a DM, thank you!
Nope, that’s also me!
@Leah Miller This is great, thank you. I love that you sit side by side with Ed and Lifecycle. The comms piece is such an important part of those efforts. Is there another comms person that manages release or newsletters (more broad comms?).
@Melissa DiBernardo I wanted to come back and give more context, as I realize I left many of your questions unanswered in my excitement to hear what everyone else would add to the thread.
Like I said, I serve as the customer comms manager for my org. I sit within the Marketing team, under Customer Marketing reporting to the Director of CMK. Within our larger CMK team, we also have a Community team, a Customer Lifecycle team, and Product Ed team. My role sits alongside these more niche teams and supports them through strategy & execution of the comms portions of their campaigns. The role is new to the org this year, so we’re still working through exactly how this works most effectively.
Does anyone have a rough guideline on conversion rates for customer referrals? For context, we’re a B2B company exploring referral programs, but our Product Marketing team points out that referrals typically work much better in B2C where you have a high proportion of end users who are willing to be advocates, and in general you’d need 10,000 customers to generate 1 referral. Does anyone have any reactions to this or data that would help us answer the question of whether that ratio is accurate?
@Katlin Hess do you have a guide for this? I didn't see anything on the website. Thank you!
Hi - does anyone have an internal guide for employees to ask customers for reviews? I'd like to encourage all customer facing teams to be comfortable asking for reviews when a customer has positive feedback. Wondering if anyone has done this - and what has gone well/what are the things to avoid. And, if you have a doc or an outline to share, let me know! Thank you.
Thanks for raising this, Rebecca. I'm also interested in knowing if you (all) have any tips on how we can keep the review pipeline going strong with customers?
My suggestion would be to dig deeper into the "why", what benefits will customers get out of attending this virtual session vs any other activities they have on their plate for that date? Right now it reads more about your company vs the customer. I know you want to demo your new product for me, but how will the product address my problems and save me time/money/efficiency?
For example, you mentioned a brand-new operating model for marketing teams...but why do I need a new operating model? Does Uptempo make it easier to collaborate with my team members? Is it going to save me 27 hours a month in meeting hours? Reduce costs by $X? I can't tell you what to insert here because you know your audience and their pain points better than any of us.
I don't think it's a bad email, it's just missing the deeper connection to your audience and speaking their language.
i think so... we use it for a bit of both. mostly to send thanks and swag to folks in the community.
no they dont have like 'self service' for your sales team but they do build out 'stores' that you can send out to customers/prospects but not like .. individual motions by AE/BDR if that makes sense/
@Amanda Peacock do they work like Reachdesk (or sendoso)? curious for future. we went to reachdesk in the last year so not looking to switch right now, but doesn't hurt to have some ideas just in case.
For this user group it’s mainly a presentation with Q&A and no networking or best practice sharing is planned.
Can you lead with the engagement aspect or networking with their peers? I have found that folks register more often when they know they will meet with peers sharing similar business challenges/business outcomes, etc.
I lead all Customer Marketing - including advocacy and lifecycle marketing (all customer comms). I report to VP of Demand Gen, in Marketing, although I was in Product Marketing for a bit. In my past role (smaller org) I reported to the VP of Marketing, we did not have a CMO
Subject line 1: [first name], you’re invited
Subject line 2: Can I buy you a coffee?
I’d love to buy you a coffee, [First Name]. You can enjoy it while attending one of our virtual user groups on October 17 or 19. We are launching the new Uptempo platform this October, and here’s why I think you should join our user group:
- Learn more about Uptempo’s new platform and roadmap.
- Get an exclusive live demo before the official launch.
- Engage with our product leaders in a live Q&A.
- Explore a brand-new operating model system for marketing teams.
I think you’re going to learn a lot from the sessions, and I look forward to having you there.
Sure I can post the original draft I received, but it’s so blah that you can swap out the company name and it wouldn’t make a difference. Un momento.
As the only customer marketer at my org I sit within Marketing but work much more closely with CS and Product/ Product Marketing than I do with the rest of Marketing
Hi all! Does anyone have a template for a Customer Reference Call request please? i.e what I would send to the customer for them to participate in the call. The template will of course have some gaps for specific use cases to be filled in to personalise the request but curious if anyone has something that works well? TIA!
hey customer marketing friends. Anybody have any customer marketing / advocacy events to attend in October - December?
speaking of swag --
-- coolest swag i've gotten in a while!!Uptick In Layoffs
I’ve had multiple people reach out this week about being laid off. I had really hoped we we past the peak but it’s still happening. Please share & respond if you can offer any help to others looking.
Suggestions on how to help:
• Directly message someone and ask what roles they are interested in.
• Look at your network to see who is hiring (I go to jobs and scroll through to see what posts show my connections)
• Share this info on #jobs, LinkedIn, or directly to them.
• Reach out and ask your network if they are hiring.
On October 6th, @Claudia Miller will join us to discuss “Crafting the Perfect Resume for Women on the Rise” along with a Q&A. I had a call with her today and she was beyond helpful, I have a lot of homework to do.
I hope you can join us on this free call for the whole ClubCX community 🙂 sign up here:
you will not see specific information.Hi folks! Spam me with your favorite swag bundle providers? We are looking for branded swag, in pretty branded containers/boxes, that we can have on site and have mailed. TIA!
Curious - Would anyone be interested in participating in a repository with a list of companies that you and others have partnered on for case studies? I feel like it could be helpful when reaching out to customers to know ahead of time that they are allowed to do case studies for vendors. Of course, the research can be done, but I thought a list would be helpful! Maybe there is something like this already also?
Yes. The people who build the workflows, compliance, guardrails and see the dollars and hours being saved are much happier than the people who have to deal with it.
@Marie Elliott Higher for buyers/exec sponsors and lower for users/admins?
We run it to both and I see a VERY clear correlation with score and role.
Have you run a successful re-opt in campaign for email? We have a large set of customers who we suspect were unintentionally opted-out due to an issue on our end, but since we can't be 100% sure, we need to find a way to get them to opt back in. I am kicking around a few ideas, but would love to hear if you have any tried and tested tactics that worked
How do you set your quarterly G2 reviews goal? How do you know what the "right" amount of reviews are each quarter to maintain/grow your rating?
Friends who run NPS: Do you survey users/admins of your product? Buyers? Both?
Hey Ladies (sorry Gentleman) we have a fun opportunity to talk to Claudia Miller - a Women in Tech, Career Coach on October 6th (normal Friday Open Discussion).
This is for the entire ClubCX community, not just paid members.
She will be presenting us a MasterClass on “Crafting the Perfect Resume for Women on the Rise”
AND, she’s open to a Q&A on our job search.
I would encourage you all to come, we never know when there will be layoffs and I’ve always gotten great information from Claudia about how to better position myself for new opportunities. Bring your questions and resumes (a lot of what she says applies to your LinkedIn profile, too).
Learn more about her here:
You can register here:
(you won’t see specific details).New tools 🙂
I’m normally sharing all of my favorite docs, videos, and tools with the ClubCX exclusive members, BUT, I wanted to share a tool I found called
You can tracks ‘leads’ from LinkedIn, what I like is the ability to add up to 10 free leads to easily scan through their new posts on LinkedIn making it easy to find new conversations to join. So, if you have some people (favorites) you follow and want to easily check on their new content, give it a shot.
Maybe share who you are following with it?
So sorry to hear this Mary! I’ve been there a few times and it’s heart breaking- I feel for you and your family
Hi <!everyone>,
I’m sorry about being MIA last week.
I wasn’t able to help Leslie with many things thing got messy. I’m sorry to you too, @Leslie Barrett. Ty for putting up with me.
Our 12 year old pet got sick with Lyme and the vet thought they could save her. We spent a lot of time on her care and at the vet’s. It’s amazing how much they can do now to save our pets and my husband and kids really wanted to try to save her, as did I, she’s my dog. Unfortunately, she passed last night at the vet’s, but she was comfortable and we can heal now. You all know how caring I am, so it’s been a tough week. TY all for hanging in there while I dealt with life. 🙂 ❤️
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Updated link -
Yes, Mary needs to start it so I can take over. I can also update the link
Is there an open discussion meeting today?
Has anyone created some type of SLA or guidelines document regarding securing customers for marketing opportunities? I often have team members reaching out asking for a customer for a webinar in 3-4 weeks (or less) which is basically impossible for me. I'd like to share something that shows the time it takes to secure a customer (X amount of days to create a short list, X amount of days to work with them on content, X amount of days to have consent & release form signed, etc.). I'm just trying to think of the best way to lay it out and present it to them to get it to stick.
Where do you track everything that's going on in references and case studies? As I'm picking up where someone left off, I realize I'm doing a lot of running things down. Like which customer uses software A vs software B. Who gave us permission to use logos vs who revoked permission. I don't think I can adequately track this in salesforce. It's not set up for that. So where do y'all keep the extensive notes on customers so you can pull what you need at any time? Have you built a database for this? Is there something already out there that you use?
Hi - I'm working on a program to capture customer location so we can invite them to local events. Our customers are globally distributed.
My question is - what "location" do I ask for? I do not want to ask for their home address. I want to know what city they are near. Should we ask for zipcode? That would only work in the US and I'm not sure how we would use it. Do I just ask what major metropolitan area they live near? Does that make sense globally?
If you collect location, how do you word it? Thank you!
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IDK, I saw it on one of their ads. Their CMA person just connected with me yesterday, I’ll let you know if she responds as I was asking about it.
Hey CX crew! Question for the group re SPIFFs around review acquisition efforts with Customer Success teams. What is the general opinion regarding including minimum requirements for eligibility for the top 3 rewards? Should the top 3 rewards be granted to the highest achievers, with or without a prerequisite of a minimum number of reviews attained? We're working with about 60 participants, which I think is important to consider with regards to reach. Thank you!
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) re: datarobot. Are you referring to their 30 day free trial??
@Ryan Quackenbush I do not think we’ve had the fortune to meet. We like to use the word simple, and that is by design! I would be more than happy to show you around Orca and get your feedback on our Slack integration, Scheduler, Survey Tool, Campaign Launcher, Content Manager, Advanced Analytics Dashboards, Custom Workflow capabilities, Notifications and Reminders, Advocate Tiers, and anything else that might catch your eye. I’ll shoot you a connection on LinkedIn and look to connect from there.
Hi there! Question for the group re: Customer Education teams. If you've been a part of one, lead one, or worked with one - how was that team structured? What were the key roles you needed within the team or would've liked to have? Currently working on building out a dream team for Customer Ed and am lost on where/how to get started! Thank you!
Hello everyone! Does anyone have any resources for engagement tactics? Everything from technical strategies to community activities/challenges. Would love to listen to podcasts or hear what type of engagement tactics yo've tried that members really seem to enjoy. Thanks!
Anniversary + Milestone recognition (reached a particular standard with the product/ service)
Lifecycle people! What other lifecycle moments can you think of?
• Post contract signing
• Onboarding kick off
• Onboarding checkins
• Certification completions
• Onboarding closed - a lot of saas companies ask for reviews here.
• Additional certification completions
• Lack of adoption red flag
• Acceptable adoption landmark
• New feature adoption
• Customer joined a customer program (community, user groups, CABs, product beta group)
• Customer submitted content to blog or webinar
• Customer marked at a high CSAT or NPS (not to be used to trigger a review due to recent 2022 legislation)
• Customer enters upsell opportunity (product, features, services)
• Customer completes upsell successfully
• Customer doesn’t finish upsell
• Customer renews contract
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We generally run all requests thru the AE anyway.
I think the problem is that we have several parts of marketing tapping the same customers. One thing we may be implementing is a kind of marketing "CS" role for our biggest name (most tapped) customers to coordinate all marketing activities. That would likely solve the problem. Then recording all "reference" activities in RefEdge so the AE can play along.
@Michelle Cloutier it's great for enterprise customer reference management (most of their customers are mid-market to enterprise - ie at least 300 employees). Sounds like your specific use/case problem might just be a more of a leadership visibility/communication challenges. Depends on the cadence/frequency of when leadership needs this info, but often times, you just kinda got put together a little deck with some screenshots or slides (a VP/C-level person is not going to log into whatever tool you have most likely). Not ideal - but you have to put in a format that are used to consuming information in. Alternatively something link-based where you can shoot them a link like Airtable/Notion/Sheets (or an SFDC report link) seems right (but I'm just kinda guessing w/o knowing the situation).
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What are your thoughts @Evan Huck about RefEdge - we do have it
Notion and Airtable are both awesome (but keep in mind they are basically fancy/slick spreadsheets/tables so not sure it moves you away from that, it just moves you into a different application). If you're looking at reference mgmt tools but don't want to go full-on RefEdge, and you use Salesforce, then check out
.Lastly if you can find someone w/basic revops chops you can build some fields/objects in SFDC/Hubspot and create reports of off those.
I like Planhat - our CS group used it. Then we got rid of CS and our AEs won't/don't use it. It was so helpful to track customer health (don't ask the ones in red!), and see all emails to customers.
I'm looking into PlanHat for this so the CS team can also see what I'm up to.
Anyone use ReferenceEdge for this purpose?
We have too many overall. Was asked if there were alternatives to spreadsheets. Also - I and my sidekick are starting to get overwhlemed by the number of sheets/asana boards, etc we have to continuously update. Would like to track all in one place.
@Michelle Cloutier - What are the reasons for moving away from the spreadsheets?
Alas - we're trying to move away from our proliferation of spreadsheets. But we may not have a choice!
When you're a duo, much easier to be scrappier too 🙂
Maria, fantastic. If you and Michelle are both interested,, let me know some times next week and I’ll set up a conversation. No hard sell…just discovery.
Tools are just tools. Start scrappy and small, and solve problems that software tools can solve once they become painful enough
And you can create another really organized spreadsheet with highlights/summaries for other stakeholders
I've done this in the past as a duo with just a really organized spreadsheet
@Scott Stransky - count me in too!! Would love to hear how you did this.
@Michelle Cloutier - I am in the SAME boat with no budget but everyone wanting to work with our clients unaware that someone else is doing the same project or outreach 🙂.
Hey Michelle, I have a contact who used to have a “spreadsheet on steroids” solution for managing customer touchpoints. If you’re open to it, he and I would like to hear what kinds of functionality you want so we could re-introduce it. Might be just what you’re looking for.
Hi team. We are building out our customer reference program and defining our customer tiers. How have you done it at your company?
👋 Hi customer marketing friends! I am wondering if anyone has experience launching and driving a customer referral program that would be willing to chat? Some leaders within my org are discussing launching something like this and adding it to the list of customer advocacy priorities. I'd love to get advice on learnings you may have, especially on how to make it something impactful and scaleable as our customer advocacy team is currently a 1 person show (me!).
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We built a motion in salesforce where AE's can't close any of their deals (won or lost) if it has an "open" reference request attached to it. That's how we're best able to get them to confirm if the calls happen. It's not a complete solve, but we do less chasing as a result
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If you run a Customer Reference program, where have you typically found bottlenecks?
And then, if you’ve identified them, how did you go about solving those to make the process work more efficiently for you?
I’ve found bottlenecks to be in the follow up and fulfillment for whether or not the reference call happened.
Anybody got tips for you’ve solved this in the past that worked well for you?
Feel free to also comment on my post asking the exact same question!
Hey y'all. i just got let go from ThoughtSpot due to the mode acquisition. would appreciate any leads for new senior customer marketing roles.
Hi friends! Does anyone have any good community maturity model resources that they like to reference? I swear I've seen some before but I can't track them down. Happy hump day! 🐪
I just recently created a smartsheet that houses all of our customer quotes and case studies. For quotes & case studies, we actually don't include any names of people we interviewed/got the quote from. There is always so much turnover, it's not worth constantly updating. We just use "HR leader, from X company." We audit this smartsheet quarterly, and if a customer left, if it it's a good quote/case study, we will anonymize it and just use the industry.
@Bree Bunzel so sorry I didn’t get a chance to respond. So on the earnings side of things, I pulled every 6 figure+ deal we would close into a spreadsheet and label out the use case, industry, and product used. Then I would note if it was net new business, a flat renewal, a renewal with $$ or use case expansion within the same business unit, or a true expansion to a new part of the business. Finally, I would add any notes about competitors into a notes field for us to talk through.
From there we would meet with our script writer and IR team starting at the end of the first month of the quarter to understand the direction they were headed with the product and momentum releases and then go over our list to decide which ones could work well. Then it was off to the csms and reps to work on how we would handle the exact ask. But from our point, the hope was to always get the name and logo in the release and the slide deck.
We would also take advantage of any live event we had in the quarter to highlight the names of customers that spoke for us as we already had their signed permission thanks to our release forms.
Hope this helps but sorry again for the delay though it looks like there are so many great experiences shared here that mine might not even be needed.
Thank you all, this was so helpful! What an epic brain trust 🧠
@Jessica Noland thank you for this! 🙏 Do you have specific customer logos, names, stories or testimonials called out?
Ahh sorry @Bree Bunzel I think I read your question too quickly and missed that point - no, not formally that I can remember
i’ve been working with our IR team at vimeo for about 18 months. it was rocky at first but we had a new VP come in and developed some workflows/resources that have made it less of a lift. happy to share — send a DM at your convenience 🙂
Thanks @Amanda Peacock!
@Bree Bunzel This was my full time each quarter at Zendesk! Happy to share as many details as you would like. We featured customer stories and logos in the shareholder letter and during the earnings calls.
Thank you everyone for your feedback!! There is great feedback here.
Popping in SUPER late on this thread, thanks for your patience in my response, @Andrew Sevillia, @Joel Primack (Yay, technology with sudden breaks in notifications!). Thanks also for tagging me in here and sharing this link, Joel.
+1 to all the recommendations above - these are all so great. Some additional tactical ways to do this: you need explicit approval of course - but one way to get started quickly on the content-blurb piece could be through comb through your Gong calls and see if there are “starter-sentiments” in there. If you find something, you’ll want to pursue the contact person at that account more directly, and start the conversation about logo + quote inclusion. You’ll still need approvals of course, but this expedites the process a bit. Also, another way to expedite the process is to always have the Sales rep have the ask in their back pocket as they get closer to the finish line on the deal. Some companies are known to include the ask almost as a part of the process in their pre-implementation conversations. In previous roles, I have seen vendors offer a price discount to big logo-prospects on the first year contract price in exchange for an “Advocacy package”: Featuring their Logo on the Vendor website + Case Study + Inclusion in Investor Materials.
Thanks for tagging me in here and sharing the link, @Joel Primack. We do this pretty regularly at Sprout, because customer metrics/testimonials/use cases are such as great proof points of business impact. My team and I are involved in this from time to time - whether it’s via testimonials from community members/customers, platform case studies, or G2 quotes - this is definitely a great collaboration to set up between customer marketing and investor relations. Hope that’s helpful, lmk if you need any more info, @Bree Bunzel!
Yes, we did this at Teradata very well and always provided additional value to the call. We did not need customer approval unless it was a new story as we had signoff with the customer authorization story when they approved the story for public use. Highlighting business outcomes/ROI is key!
Yes - always did this at Dell. My data protection stories were featured in quite a few earnings calls. I did an overview for the IR team for: a customer quote they can use for their release and highlights of the story namely around ROI. Hope this helps.
Hi @Bree Bunzel - @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) is right, I am doing this! We are private, so don't have shareholders, but we are building mini case studies for our board meetings. It's maybe 2-3/quarter... nothing crazy. We include a little bio about the client, their activations (i.e. sits on CAB, participated in x, y, z, served as a reference, etc.), relevant testimonials or other quotes, and finally any impact on revenue (attribution tied back to renewal/growth). Each case study is 1 slide in a broader deck... nothing more! They've played well and are now in the quarterly deck I present across the company... this also led to our board wanting a tour of our community. A couple of them even joined, but that's another story for a different day! 🙂
Hi @Bree Bunzel, we do! The Customer Advocacy team works closely with IR to include customer stories in quarterly shareholder letters and annual reports.
Great! I'll reach out once we have activated this!
Hi all, curious to see if anyone in here has created a reference program without investing in a reference management tool? Looking to build workflows in Salesforce internally. Has anyone been in a similar situation and interested sharing their best practices / advice? 🙂 Thanks in advance!
@Beccy Furness this is fantastic. I was talking with Crystal last week. We've done the first part of what you have described above but haven't yet taken the step of building out nurtures. I'd love to learn more once you have it set up. I've been talking to our lifecycle marketing person about this but we haven't taken those steps yet.
I actually have a kick-off call tomorrow on a new 6sense activation we're looking to activate that targets churned accounts. those that start revisiting our website/ giving intent signals, once they reach a certain score we will enter them into a cadence to try and warm up the lead. It may be worth syncing once I've got this set-up if this sounds like something you'd be looking to do!
This is so helpful, thank you @Valeria Gomez 🙏
Hi Camille, at Dell I never recorded private reference calls between customers. I just took notes and delivered a short report to the account rep. Recording customers I felt put them on the spot and made some customers uncomfortable especially with customers in my advocacy program that agreed to be private references only. Hope that helps :)
Question. Has anyone personally recorded a video promoting your Advocacy programs, Customer stories or reviews? Examples would be greatly appreciated! My focus in the past was Customer videos.
Hi All! I have a question about referral programs.. I'm working on launching one (still in beta) that requires a customer to sign up to receive a unique referral link, that essentially is a book a demo page with UTM tracking. However I have customers reaching out to ask about a referral program after they have referred someone who is already going through the sales process. Since it's not technically marketing attributed I'm not quite sure how to handle these. Anyone run into this before?
@Bree Bunzel I am sorry for my delay! We manage all of these milestones in Airtable, but we also have a highlevel doc which includes each session and it looks something like this:
Hi everyone! I'm working on various customer journey maps (specifically for onboarding, adoption, and expansion) and would love some inspiration. We're mapping these out by JTBD and personas and trying to include what our comms plan will be (both in app and email). Would love to see if anyone here has worked on something similar. I have many ideas, but would love to learn from all of you. Please dm me if you have anything you can share or want to brainstorm together
Interested if anyone has a solid conference/event speaker brief doc they are open to sharing.
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Hi everyone, I'd love to hear your thoughts on recording, or not, sales reference calls.
We're leaning towards adopting a best practice for prospects and customers to meet without the advocacy team and without the account executive on the call, in order to offer the prospect and the customer a non-biased and non-directed environment to discuss the product. At the same time, we can see this as a missed opportunity to hear a customer's story and possibly have the opportunity to repurpose content into a review, a quote, and/or a larger customer story.
Any thoughts?
@Bree Bunzel not sure if this is exactly what you mean but for past user conferences I've produced for customers at different levels - think like a professor and a university IT professional - we built separate conference tracks for them. Also have done separate tracks for executives and managers. This gave them enough breakouts/workshops focused on them and filled in with more general product sessions that aligned with everyone.
What are your thoughts on keeping customer quotes updated in a customer quote/testimonial library? If the company is still a customer but the quoted person at the company no longer works there, can you still use the quote/testimonial? If no, how often do you review quotes to see if they're still able to be used?
What job titles do you search for generally when looking for a customer mktg/customer advocacy program manager job? I am wanting to set up some LinkedIn alerts but I want to be sure I’m getting the results that make the most sense. For example, my current title is Community Manager but I do customer marketing and run an advocacy program.
all good @Beccy Furness - it was more picking each other's brains on how we use 6sense currently and brainstorming sesh. i'm happy to set up a separate meeting with you to chat through your nurtures as well...we're still kind of stumped as to how to make this NOT stalker-ish. 😝
SO sorry @Crystal Anderson, I just went to join the call 🙈 had the wrong time in my head! hope it was a productive chat
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I feel like someone asked this recently and I can't find it.... what do you ask customer advocates as part of their onboarding? I'd like to to keep it short but would love to learn things likes personal/professional motivations, interests (to personalize appreciation gifts more), etc.
Do any of you have onboarding surveys for your customer advocacy program you wouldn't mind sharing? or even just questions you ask that have been helpful to you in getting to know your advocates better?
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Hi all! Does anyone have any best practices around Nurture Campaigns? I'm wondering what resonates best as far as cadence (i.e. how many emails? how often?) - thanks!
Hey all! How many of you are creating pocket stories (single slide case study summaries for sales to add to decks)? Anyone willing to share your examples?
So helpful! All of our customers are doing a fireside chat format so it should be easy giving them the questions a month in advance - we'll also give them the VIP experience as well!
The end user of our product is a systems administrator type who is not the decision maker when it comes to the company participating in a case study. I'm thinking the corporate communications team at the customer company is probably the stakeholder I need to sell the case study benefits to.
Does anyone have any resources/advice on getting a company to agree to (and excited about) participate in a case study when the end user the case study will be about is not the decision maker?
Thank you so much for sharing, Mo! I’ll be looking through this.
Unfortunately I don't have the document anymore. Our event was also virtual so we didn't have things like travel. But our goal was that their content was pretty much done by the time they met with the speaker coach so that it could be a dry run with their actual deck. Each speaker also had an internal partner who helped with the content (sometimes just as reviewer, other times essentially as the content creator). Because the content needed to be done first, most people met with the coach in the two weeks leading up to their recording date.
I do not as our Events team handled coordination and travel arrangements for main speakers. For our October event, speakers were generally selected by July from their submissions (April deadline). If the speakers were specifically related to customer reference activities (e.g. hosting group reference lunches), they could redeem points for travel and hotel through my team, and we had processes in place where they could make their own arrangements. Happy to chat via phone if needed.
Hi all question, is anyone here looking at or focussed on customer marketing from a revenue angle (post activation and pre retention)? If so I’d love to chat. A lot of the conversation I see generally in customer marketing is on advocacy and community or retention, so would love to know anyone looking at this area specifically. It’s the focus of my role. Would gladly share how we work with the customer advocacy, success, and BI teams too 😊
@Marie Elliott I did a recent conference keynote on this I can share the video if helpful!
Our customer stories & content have helped with the first two priorities. We also are experimenting more with "Meet a Champion" connection points at events and via references to support the first two! We leverage Dropbox DocSend to keep track of which reps have viewed/shared our content and track back attribution
@Lauren Stefano @Maria Sturgeon @Valeria Gomez do any of you have a strategy & work back plan template around the nurture & coaching in the lead up to getting these customers on stage (ie. 3 months out brief them & set them up with a speaker coach, 2 months out book travel etc)?
Thanks for all of your feedback everyone. Glad to see this topic resonated on a few levels.
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I agree with @Shannon Howard - if it is coming from me personally in a professional setting, you all know it will be a #peoplebeforeprofessionals approach -a personal touch matters. My tone is completely different when I am doing a newsletter or corporate communication. That said, I think companies that find their brand and do it well, work in a personal touch as part of it. That said, your advocacy program can always have a totally different voice and approach (within reason) than your corporate brand - @Liz Richardson does a great job of talking about this in the Captivate certification program.
I agree with Shannon and Lauren, this should really be dictated by your brand tone of voice to ensure consistency across all comms but with content coming directly from you, you should be able to showcase your own identity more
@Shannon Howard Thank you, I completely agree.
Depends on the company brand and the communication. If something comes from an individual, like a blog post or email, I think it's okay for some of that person's personality to come out.
For my own communications, I err on the side of more personal than corporate. People don't do business with companies, they do business with people.
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Good morning everyone! Anyone have tips on getting customers comfortable sharing ROI metrics from their usage of your products? Do you use leading questions, examples etc?
Hi All - I’m new to Community and I’m a one-person team. I wanted to use events in our programming to help members connect and learn from each other. Besides AMAs and networking sessions, are there other events that you’ve used to increase engagement in your communities? Do you find that marketers value events with professional/skill-building content or thought leadership or should it be completely hospitality/fun experiences? We will poll our members too but wanted to get thoughts from this group. Thanks!
Hi All, been thinking about executive programs a lot lately. I specifically would love insights/ideas/examples from folks who have run a newsletter to a specific executive advocacy group focused on thought leadership, community and relationship building.
Besides some great industry focused content, has anyone seen anything really creative being included in an executive level newsletter?
had this sent to me by a former colleague. B2B marketing leaders continue to underprioritize retention and we wonder why CMA roles are the first to get cut 😓
OK - Hive minds. Give me some feedback here - as you moved into customer marketing, which aspect was your primary focus, and what knowledge and/or skill gaps did you work to fill?
I have a question for the CAB experts… How do you navigate having participants who consider each other competitors? We are developing a CAB at my company and have two enterprise retail companies we’d like to include. One of those companies considers the other a competitor and is very resistant to joining anything that involves them. Any suggestions for how to navigate this would be appreciated!
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Great point, Tonya!
Definitely a data point worth keeping track of! On the email side, we recommend doing validation checks more often for B2B compared to B2C because people move from job to job so often. You don't want to be sending messages to vacant inboxes.
For those of you who host a customer conference, or if you sponsor someone else's conference, and you have a customer present a session, do you have a legal agreement for them to sign? Or do you just assume emails going back and forth with them agreeing to do the speaking gig is enough? Do you officially ask for permission to record the session and use the content for other marketing before the presentation? I really do not want to have legal draft something - but wondering how others handle this. TY.
Highly HIGHLY recommend @Leslie Barrett's course for this topic! Using a closed won survey (Leslie's suggestion) works well to start capturing feedback from new logos on what was most impactful during their buying journey/ purchasing decision (which actually goes beyond measuring just impact of case studies). We also use
which is similar to highspot that helps to track which case studies are being used and how regularly they are being viewed. It has a hubspot integration as well so can track which closed won deals interacted with case studies 😍 really nice toolI've got a former colleague who is wanting to start a customer marketing function at her org. Does anyone who has made the case to start the function have slides or info they could share about how they gathered the pain points and solutions that CM would align for their company?
Hi everyone -
I am wondering if anyone has best practices or examples on how they measure case studies/success stories utilization in deals or measuring their impact on deals?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi All - We are hosting a customer conference with the goal to get 100 customer attendees, its almost a month away and we are not hitting our registration goals. We would like to use paying for hotel and flights for attendees as a last resort. We are announcing the agenda/session names and keynote this week. Looking for any ideas or incentives, perks, swag, out of the box ideas to get registrants.
I'm in discussions with our legal team about this. They have A LOT of concerns about using AI when related to anything to do with customers. I'll keep the team posted on how our conversations continue to unfold.
Hi Emily, I’ve been discussing this a lot with various companies as well as my colleagues at Dell, and AI will undoubtedly play a bigger role which is what they’re all saying. Especially when it comes to written content creation. AI in my opinion will never and should never take the place of us doing the actual customer interviews - that’s a huge relationship builder for us - but may actually make our jobs slightly easier. AI can create any question set or script or even video production you may want (I’ll still always vet it thru product mktg though) and AI generated customer montages could enhance a standard 2:00 testimonial- I think it’s still early for customer marketing but I’m going to keep researching this. I hope this helps somewhat.
Hi customer story aficionados! I'm constantly getting asked about AI by customers, colleagues and friends. I'd love to hear your perspective on these two questions: 1) What role is AI playing in your customer story creation? 2) How do you anticipate AI will eventually play a greater role in customer story creation?
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Hi all,
I think I've seen a few posts around CABs and so certainly a hot topic for many. How do you make sure you choose the best city for the CAB (focusing on US) - e.g. Miami in January because a lot of people are working x the country? How do you handle different segments, groups of people (executives vs. IT practitioners), industries, products vs. platforms, etc.? Have you invited customers exclusively to be a member first, to make sure there is interest in joining the Advisory Board and being part of the whole thing?
Have looked at Ciana's Lighthouse Program approach, if anyone is open to a chat about in-person experiences I would appreciate it. I think I have a good understanding of it, but never run a CAB/PAB by my own.
Wondering how many questions should we queue for a 1 hour fireside chat (we're doing an internal one CEO & a customer). Any other suggestions for what has worked well for you would also be appreciated. Thinking:
• 5min - welcome/intro
• 5min - Doing some kind of rapid fire or get to know you questions
• 30mins of questions. I'm guessing ~6-8, better to have more and just not get to them. I assume there will also be follow up questions thrown in based on the answers.
• 15 mins for staff Q&A
I want to echo this sentiment...I'm not on here nearly as often as I want to be, but I do scroll through and absorb all the tips and information. Sometimes I just scroll for the camaraderie as well 🙂
@here In which topics do you have experience & are willing to share to help others?
Hello community! Are there any meetups or events happening in the Bay Area next week? I'm based in India but in town next week and would love to meet people in person if at all that's an opportunity! Let me know 🙏
Missed you here, @Evan Huck! Hope it was a great time.
Feedback if you’ve have direct experience with:
• ReferralCandy
• Referral Factory
• Refurl
TYIA 🙏
hey there! I am stepping outside of customer marketing a bit and helping to support our tech vertical. they are in desperate need of a 1 pager but I'm getting stuck on template. Anyone have a good one to share?
You may already be planning to do this, but for point#2, I would also break out a list of specific moments or feelings from the event I want to capture for future promotions. Like, I want a photo of customers smiling and engaged with the session content, I want a crowd shot during the keynote, I want a photo of someone being festive during our opening night party, I want a photo of customers interacting with each other or customers being assisted by our employees, etc.
Being specific helps inform your photographer of what key moments to look for.
Hello there! 👋 Does anyone have experience working on an advocacy strategy for key/tenured advocates? I want to engage a couple of my tenured advocates with a strategy that is maybe spread out across a quarter or so, and I'm looking for any tips/templates you may have. 🙂 Thanks!
Hi customer marketers, does anyone have an email template for inviting customers to speak at our customer conference - that you can share?
@Evan Huck Worth another trip sometime for sure.
We got taken care of like family by our Balinese hosts/cooks/babysitters, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) 🙂 Just went because it was beautiful, wonderful culture, and easy place with kids about 2 and 4 years old
I got engaged at Tulum! :)
We are headed to Alaska soon!
What beautiful landscapes! I’d love to go someday
Only taken a couple of local trips so far this summer: a week on cape cod and then Nantucket for a friend’s wedding. I’m not sure anyone enjoyed either trip more than Larry (dog) did
dang that's rough - feel so bad for the community down there - such a tough problem
Really makes me think about customer advocacy and gratitude. Every employee was super courteous - especially Sharon from Magnolia Market who we spoke with several times. Also, I bought a lotion and totally forgot it was too large to take through security. Naturally, the TSA agent was not as courteous and discarded it. I called Magnolia to see if I could reorder when I got home, and they sent me one for free. Now, that makes me want to be an advocate for life. Surprise and delight!
My dad went to Baylor, so I went to Waco a handful of times as a kid. Haven't been back since Chip and Joanna came on the scene though. I bet it was awesome! Like Kaily, I love seeing them put Waco on the map beyond Baylor.
Damn Ubud looks awesome. @Lauren Locke-Paddon Kahlynn and I went there for our honeymoon but got stuck at the beach b/c the volcano was erupting so couldn't go up to the jungly parts.
brutal when I was there. every morning there were a bunch of guys raking it all away to keep up the illusion haha
how was the sargoso (seaweed) situation?
I was in Tulum in January! love it there. Chichen Itza is so great too, shame you can't climb El Castillo anymore 😓
I'm from WA, now living in NC and the only place I want to go is Oregon in the summertime. The coast there is unbeatable in summer. And I love Buoy beer too so that helps. Haha.
Just got back from a 2 week break to Italy! It was HOT but it was so much FUN!
We just came back from a trip to Tulum. Besides beach days and yoga, we also visited Chichen Itza!
These pics are amazing! And reminding me to renew my passport. The only trip I took this summer was to California to visit family (beach pic), but that’s OK because I live in Oregon and you don’t want to leave because summer is the most beautiful/non rainy time of year (kid fishing pic)!
Went to Ireland in May for my honeymoon! My grandfather was Irish, but it was my husband’s first visit and we had insane weather, not a drop of rain! We did NOT want to come home 😂
My cousin and I went to Waco for a few days! HOT but loved it!
I love seeing everyone's pics! Back in April we went to Japan and went to many of the typical beautiful sites, but on our last day in Osaka before we headed to the airport, we went to the Cup Noodles museum. In addition to learning the history behind the brand and its founder, you get to make your own custom instant noodles as a souvenir and decorate the packaging.
We have a soft spot for weird museums but this unintentionally turned into a customer marketing learning opportunity for me.
A taste of some recent work and vacation travel. From Singapore to Sydney to St Lucia
Last December, we moved to a gated country club community in Delaware where every day is vacation! We have a cruise to Italy/Spain/Greece in August, but for now I'll suck it up and keep counting my blessings. Love all these wonderful photos/experiences shared so far! #livewhereyouvacation #coastallife #gratitude
We enjoyed some of the best, freshest fish tacos (MahiMahi) around in our last trip to Cozumel.
*No stingrays were harmed in the making of these fish tacos 😂 🎣
Let’s go OFF TOPIC - Share your vacation pics <!everyone>
We have a state park called Green Lakes. Today we took my oldest for a short hike.
Hi all! Does anyone have an established crisis comms framework? Ex. plans for how you might communicate mass billing errors, outages, etc. with customers if needed? I’ve made the ask to our internal PR & Comms team to see how customer messaging is built into their existing plans, but I’m curious if anyone has taken on this initiative from a customer marketing standpoint?
Ty :)
I'd definitely add
and to that list!yikes @Jennifer Lyons i’m sorry you’ve been put in those situations. we’ve also had members of marketing + sales completely disregard contract terms for some of our larger logos. whenever i spot it, i tell them to remove it and remind them about the terms + importance of trust in our relationship with this customer — and where to check for approval usage of logos moving forward. if it becomes persistent, i have had to loop in our legal team once or twice, which usually ‘gets’ them to comply. one of the more challenging situations i was in was “going up against” our CEO who insisted we include some F50 company logos who expressly stated we cannot include them (!)
It's all common sense when you have a manageable number of customers and team members and work in unregulated industries.
Good point. We have various levels of exposure:
• Logo on website
• Customer quote
• Sales deck or email mention
• Name drop on website/collateral
• Name drop in verbal convo
• Name drop in gated content (Webinar etc)
It
@Daniel Glickman This is the rule of thumb I’ve followed for verbal mentions. It’s common sense to not use those who have expressly told us not to. I think it’s different territory when the team wants a logo deck, use of name in a presentation, testimonial, case study slide, etc. But a name drop, just be sure to exclude those who have an ironclad policy against it, or those that are currently unhappy.
For us in SaaS the rule of thumb is always OK to share by default. However, it's best practice to check in with the AM before doing it just to be sure that there is no sensitive moment happening.
I have seen some companies actually create a logo share permission field in Hubspot that gets field out during the handoff from sales to success. It can even be automatically populated based on the filed in a contract.
I'm building a list of top customer marketing & customer advocacy professionals to follow on LinkedIn. Who should I include?
Hi all, I am trying to build a document (perhaps excel?) to centralize all customer activities such as case studies, webinars guest speakers, conference guest speakers, CAB, EAP, surveys, etc. The goal is to be able to strategize and coordinate internally what accounts we want to target to avoid advocacy fatigue, avoid internal misalignment, etc. We have a base of approx. 400 accounts. I'm not that worried about scaling, just need a starting point. Our tech stack is comprised of Hubspot, Salesforce, Gainsight, and 6Sense. Any suggestions or templates?
Hiiiiiiiiiii!
I was just given ownership of our onboarding, renewal and post-renewal nurtures but I don’t have much experience or knowledge of best practices. I’d love to chat with some experts, join a call, listen to podcasts etc that could provide some insight.
If anyone has suggestions I am open!
Hi all, I saw this topic come up in another space; Anyone struggling with approval of G2 reviews? I’m happy to get Katlin on and discuss, let me know.
Hi @Kara Spinelli I am not a fan of discounts for advocacy participation when the client is a new customer. Inevitably someone at the client side will say no to a request and you can’t rescind the discount. The other option is to get corporate comms and any other stakeholders at the client side to sign off, but that slows the deal down and sales will not want to go there.
Renewal time is different. Profit margins are better, signing the renewal has less roadblocks, and if the client has a history of doing advocacy, with a good story and is easy to work with then a discount makes more sense.
Hope this helps!
HI there! Happy Monday - are you currently using different tiers /levels (customer profile, benefits etc) for your customer advocacy program?
@Bree Bunzel It was at a previous company but I'm trying to dig out the name. I really liked her!
Love this, thank you for sharing @Cristina Sartori Errico 🙏
Hi Everyone. We have a customer who is making the case to hire a second mid-level customer reference manager. She doesn't know what the median income for that position is though. Do you all have some info. in regards to the median salary for a mid-level reference manager?
Adding on to Bree's great user conference questions. Has anyone set up a booth at a customer event to collect video testimonials or quotes at the event? Interested in the logistics of a moment like this, I have seen laminated question cards for them to give a quote about and a premium swag if they participate but interested in all your experience.
Many organizations will err on the side of non-exempt to prevent future lawsuits. It's not a bad life - OT can be great when you're working events or launches that go for long periods for days. The compensation is usually very good. The downside is that you have to keep track of all that you do, more for yourself than for the organization. You don't want to under-report your efforts, nor do you want to "guess" how much time it took, because they will come back and ask.
Different organizations will use different reporting methods. My last place auto-approved anything up to 10 hours with no questions asked. Anything over 10 needed a warning that it was coming. PITA in the beginning, but I track everything anyway, and have for a very long time, so the actual reporting wasn't strange for me.
It’s Official we have 500 members with @Katherine Leung joining us today. Welcome Katherine - what’s one thing you’d like to learn about in Customer Marketing or Advocacy?
For example, if you have DevRel or others who give frequent talks, you can think about working with them if the budget is tight. We have a Speakers Corner internally (not only tech related) where we also offer help and support to customers. That's very well received.
This is all SO helpful thank you 🙏 @Lauren Stefano @Maria Sturgeon @Valeria Gomez do you have recommendations for a speaking coach/vendor for this?
@Maria Sturgeon love the advocate office hours & lounge, very cool ✨
@Valeria Gomez Taco Mezcal sounds so fun!
@Ciana Abdollahian love the local food flair and BMW driving experience!
We did a customer lounge at a tradeshow that was really well received. Catered breakfast & lunch from local favorite food established, espresso drinks, and places to charge devices and work. It was located in a VR gaming facility so customers could opt in for a game.
In addition we did an exec dinner with an upscale meal + wine pairing. I think there was a sommelier or someone to discuss the wine and pairings.
We also gave VIP bracelets for the party we hosted which allowed customers to cut the line and also gave them an access to VIP area which had shorter drink/food lines.
We did a BMW driving experience with customers in Charlotte that was also really well received.
Hi there! Any additional ideas for ways you engaged customers/advocates in a "virtual" user conference?
Hey <!everyone> We’re on for Event & Conference ROI with Josh Grose
Anyone here ever been moved to a non-exempt position in Customer Marketing?
• We have had speaker coach for customer speakers, and also our comms team has helped with some tricks and tips during online rehearsals and in-person.
• In May, we did a VIP dinner for about 20 customers and some of our executives also joined, and we received amazing feedback about that one. We also had a happy hour right before the dinner for all attendees with really high-end foods and drinks. From the event feedback- that one of the highlights of the day.
• For our advocates, we did a taco and mezcal tasting 🙂 and THEY LOVED THAT!
@Ciana Abdollahian (if she has time to hop in) might have some thoughts on VIP experiences that customers love. She has a program with Execs at her company and with Exec customers.
• Hi @Bree Bunzel, We did not bring on a speaker coach for everyone, only for the main keynotes. We had a very large, private conference space with breakout rooms for private meetings where our advocates could meet with prospects, customers, analysts and media all in one place. Meetings would be arranged prior to the event and onsite. In the middle of the room was a large lounge space with refreshments where our advocates could come in and just take a break - also an opportunity to develop the relationships with our customer advocacy team. We also did room drops for our advocates (they were official members of our program) 2-3 nights and had a special reception just for them and their respective account reps. Lastly, we hosted group lunches 3 days and had about 10 advocates featured each day. Each table sat 10 folks and acct reps would sign their folks up in advance. Tables were always filled up about 2 weeks prior to the event. This also helped reduce 1:1 mtgs for top customers so they loved being hosts. Hope that helps!
I'd love to hear more about "meet a champion"!
Yes, we brought on a speaker coach and would definitely recommend it if you have the budget. We had her work with keynote speakers 1:1 and she was able to do group sessions for breakouts. It was very helpful (and was also a great forcing function to get folks to have their content ready)
Thank you all!
HI @Bree Bunzel
this is what I see that our customers love doing at our user's conferences which is also a win situation for us :
• For top customers > I offer them to do a speech as individuals or in a round table > In both cases I offer a speaker coach in two sessions: one is common, and one is one-to-one to help them with the speech they will do
• For the rest of the world of customers > I offer at our booth a " Your story, your voice" . In partnership with PeerSport customer will find a sort of relaxed area where they can sit down and share their success stories. PeerSpot then will publish these video or written review
<!everyone> - can you help with these ⬆️ questions?
@Ciana Abdollahian this is a tricky one. It is a cliche to say each company is different in product set, history, politics, customers…. In a simple world, CSM would own adoption retention, sales would do upsell and cross-sell. Where customer marketing fits in is to provide the data and oversee nurture campaigns. Super simplistic answer and happy to chat 1-1.
For any of you who own customer marketing or work at a company that has a customer marketing function: do you have one person who owns adoption, retention, expansion (upsell/cross-sell) or is it broken up e.g have a person who is responsible for driving adoption/retention (because product adoption should help lead to retention) and then have someone focus on expansion. I’m thinking of the latter approach but wondering if there are some big cons to that i’m missing!
Porter! Thanks!
Ok, waiting to find out now. Is this for Porter or Frank? Just curious so I can tell the team. They like to ask me questions....🙂
Ok. I have one account in particular I think would be good as their RM uses it, but I need to go double check with their AD.
We're just looking for some feedback about the integration from folks who are actually using it. So probably better if its a reference manager, or something similar. We know of a lot of folks who are using both tools but not many of them have them properly integrated.
Alexie, what would the person need to talk to your tech team about? We are trying to determine - would they need to talk to the Salesforce admin associated with our customer or just the RM associated with the account. Just want to know who would need to be on the call with your admin.
Hi all - interested in seeing some examples of CAB benefits docs or CAB rules engagement docs if you are open to sharing. Also insights on how you balanced the priorities across the organization as far as requests to the CAB.
Amazing - thanks to you both!!
or read, I guess
teams are looking into this as we speak =)
I have a few in mind, but let me double check with my team and make sure I'm right. I'll get back to you shortly.
I’ll check
@Ari Hoffman @Allison Hughes do you happen to know of any customers using both tools who may be integrated and open for a quick chat with my team's technical admin?
Thanks so much for looking into it, @Daniel Palay. This is a common thread in other conversations! Lots of folks using both but not connected. Appreciate it!
@Alexie Glover, so sorry to say as i come with bad news that while my former team uses both RE and Influitive, they haven't connected the two. Something about the SFDC team being so overwhelmed that they wouldn't support any new connections.
Thanks @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) and @Joel Primack! super helpful.
Yes, looking at logged in and members who posted are helpful too.
If you’re on the free plan, my favorites are:
• Weekly active members
• Members who posted
• Where people are reading %
I use Common Room because it’s free, but Threado works too.
Hi @Melissa Martensson I tend to look at new members, active members, # of messages, and inactive members.
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) any insight to share on Slack analytics you focus on for this community?
If you check it out, @Melissa Martensson, and connect with them, feel free to drop my name to unlock a special gift 🎁
Thanks @Joel Primack!
Anyone using Influitive and ReferenceEdge? Looking to have a quick conversation with folks who are using both tools and happy with their workflow/integration between the two
Hi all - quick question. @JJ Maldonado and I are building out some landing pages for e-gifting. Do you have any examples from your program that you'd be willing to share? And do you have any recommendations on the number of e-gift cards to choose from?
We can do both, if anyone is interested.
This may be a later session once we all have some experience with it under our belt. Sounds like we're all still in the testing/discovery phase so not sure it makes sense yet to have a larger group call. Perhaps Q3?
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) How we can utilize 6sense or other Intent data for Customer Advocacy/Customer Marketing
Hi all 👋 I’m new to using Slack as a customer community. For those that do, what Slack analytics do you focus on for monthly reporting? Appreciate any best practices/learnings you have 🙏
Hey all -
is doing the 2023 version of our Customer Marketing Technology landscape and releasing it in a couple weeks ( ).Before I release this to the broader community - wanted to get this groups feedback on this draft of the 2023 landscape. Any vendors I omitted? Vendors - let me know if you feel you should be in a different category (but you can only choose 1 category 🙂
Sure @Miri Hess what exactly do you want to discuss?
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) Maybe we can have a group call on this topic if there is enough interest?
Thanks!
@Beccy Furness happy to invite you to this. What's your email address?
It would be great to get in on this discussion! We have recently onboarded 6sense and looking to do exactly this with at-risk accounts. How do we trigger nurture tracks without looking like stalkers? how can you use the 6sense data to trigger relevant content in the cadence? very interesting idea
@Jeanne Talbot Out of curiosity, does the G2 data that’s in 6sense show you specifically which competitors your customers or prospects were researching?
That’s a fantastic way to utilize 6sense.
Happy to meet and I would have our ABM manager join us. He's the 6Sense wizard. My email is
if you want to reach out with some possible times.hey all, just wondering if anyone can recommend a survey provider for NPS surveys please? 🙂
Thanks for sharing! I was on the road headed home, sad to have missed. Sounds like it was a great call 😄
Great yes!
That sounds great! I'd love to participate if you still need people!
Calling the Sendoso experts here for quick help (Helloo @Leslie Barrett!) - We sent some branded swag to a customer and they asked "As part of our internal anti-corruption policy, could you tell me the amount excluding VAT per person of these gifts?"
Should the gift amount include the items' shipping cost as well? Does anyone know? Also, when your customers ask for these, do you send them invoice/other proofs or just share the amount details over an email?
<!everyone> Guess what?
We have a call today at 2PM EST - A Community Demo for Champion HQ - will you be there?
Next Friday we have a guest from @Joel Primack who is sharing on Event & Conference ROI - this should be super interesting because we tend to do a lot of events for our customers.
Finally, we have 3 other calls coming soon, 2 more community demos, and Share your Tech Stack, all on upcoming Fridays.
And, a new registration platform for events - YAY! 🎉
I always love a good marvel meme.
Happy Friday! Opened up my NPS feed to find this ABSOLUTE GEM from an angry customer. He copied the entire Lewis Carroll poem in the comment section and nothing else.
Yes, it is and I’m here for some chaos today, @Jake Sotir 😂
absolute chaos on there right now
I signed up late last night and then stayed up way later than planned... It reminds me of Twitter in the early days.
For sure - thanks Lauren, will reach out too.
I haven’t posted yet
Hi! I'd be happy to participate if you still need volunteers
^^^ Can we chat about Threads for a second??? Anyone else down the rabbit hole? It's giving First Day of School vibes.
Awesome will send you all notes!
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) maybe you need a cmaweekly thread account with daily wisdom from the community
Hi Angela - I am interested!
I'm intrigued. I'd love to participate @Angela Ferrante
Sorry I missed this. I am watching the recording now. It's a good one!
Does anyone know of any stats related to how much of a SaaS company's sales/marketing budget is typically used on customer acquisition vs customer retention?
(There are lots of stats about how much more expensive it is to land a new customer vs keeping an existing one, but I'm trying to find some numbers on how companies are ACTUALLY spending their money.)
I'm trying to build a slide for a customer story and would love to get some ideas!
Unlike the usual 'case study snippet' slides where customers would've had some form of ROI, these customers are much earlier in their journey w/ us - these are still in implementation or just after implementation. So the meat of the content is around pain points, evaluation criteria & why they chose us, and where they see our product playing a role in the future. When I add 4-5 bullet points on these ^, the slide doesn't come off as strong/impactful. Thoughts/ideas?
The intended audience for this is prospects & those who're still having second thoughts during the Solutioning/Tech-win.
Today’s call was really interesting. We discussed:
• finding the right fit in a position and knowing when it’s not the right role
• when you shouldn’t be beholden to numbers/KPIs
• the immense value of having KPIs
• stages of your KPIs
• overlap of Customer Marketing & Community in regards to KPIs
• Tech stacks (call focused on this coming soon)
• keeping track of sales enabling customer quotes
And other topics. Interestingly, we have several new folks join us, and Ari & Daniel Palay debated (for lack of a better word) on when we should be beholden to numbers.
Recording & transcript:
And here’s a link @Mindy Lyons Blackstock shared about being busy - we all do it, but it’s not healthy, how can we fix that?
About to jump on this week’s call.
Hi all, the conversation today at 2 PM EST (weekly call) Is Open Discussion - Come help others! Share your questions, projects and insights!
Thanks, everyone!
that’s the link
Oh no
Has anyone managed to troubleshoot the Luma calls not showing in your calendar? I had them in there for a while, now they seem to have dropped off? I only get email notifications about the events. (@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly))
@Jeff Reekers will be sharing Champion July 7th on our weekly call, you can RSVP here
there will not be specific details, you’ll get the invite for every week.In addition to everyone's list -
• Use Hubspot, or your equivalent for the communications. It's better for tracking.
• If you have a community - push it there after you've sent an email announcement
• If you have a line-up of speakers, throw in a special meet and greet for customers that sign up by ????, either in-person at the event, or virtually in advance
• I've started our communications schedule for the event in October already with promotional discounts
Hi All, has anyone taken the CXPA exam or found it useful for customer marketing? I saw a position that requires it as a certification but it is a new concept to me.
Late to the party but let me see if I can dig out some of my old event comms files and share!
LOL... we cater specifically to ethics and compliance professionals so this is my life. From the data I've collected on what people can and can't accept, it's all over the board. From a $20 gift that must be shareable across the whole company (what?!) to no limit as long as it's not in consideration of business being conducted.
That said, gift cards are a last resort for us, but generally frowned upon. We defer to swag, access to special services, or comped services.
So much great advice - I would add a couple more:
1. Consider ABM: Fancy paper invites (wedding style) or a personalized letter from your CEO (or other recognizable leader) to the people you know you want there can go a long way!
2. Don't forgot comms DURING the event (when you get there). Some of my favorite emails to write are the recap of yesterday, what's ahead today emails. It's extra work onsite, but can be impactful!
You all are the best! Thank you! @Julie Neumeister - Tracking links! Brilliant 🤯
Hi Community! Recently I have gotten some pushback from my LT team on sending out gift cards of a certain amount, due to tax compliance reasons (it being likely to be considered income, if awarded to a person) Has anyone run into this issue before or have any guidance/knowledge on the legalities behind this?
We are gearing up for our upcoming in-person customer conference and are about to kick off a comprehensive communications strategy to promote it to our customers. I wanted to reach out to this amazing community for some inspiration. Have any of you created a communications plan for a large-scale customer event before? If so, I would greatly appreciate your expertise and insights. It would be incredibly helpful if you could share any sample plans or even just some tips and best practices that have worked well for you.
@Lauren Sanborn Just some ideas on questions to ask and ways to organize the stories you want to tell in a way that makes the customer the star and partner the enabler as @Virginia Braysaid. Kim did a great job of segmenting by the most important product/industry based on strategic growth initiatives. Questions like "What are the 2-3 ways XYZ partner accelerated the adoption of our technology" (or whatever strategic goals you're tying into) go a long way if you're conducting interviews (or even as a one-off question on a zoom call/via email). @Kim Plank is the wizard behind the strategies around gaining customer participation and navigating complicated internal waters without stepping on toes. She can provide lots of context on the scheduling process. She's a machine.
Thank you. We don’t have budget to go external right now. Great for me to know though. I appreciate it.
@Lauren Sanborn this company sells nearly exclusively through the partner channel, so they create customer assets and categorize them by partner (if you scroll on the left you'll see they ask "what it's like working with the partner" which the partners often embed on their own websites)
Hi Lauren, I definitely got the partner account rep or alliance manager involved and they provided the intro to the partner. I LOVE partner/customer stories and they add such tremendous value for everyone involved. I hope this helps.
@Leslie Barrett or the San Fran channel might be able to help.
Does anyone create public customer success stories that include their platform and a partner all-in-one? It’s essentially a customer story to support partner marketing, if that makes sense. Would anyone be open to sharing tips or tricks on what works? I have success stories like this to a degree, but they only mention our partner. They don’t go into detail about the partner which is what our tech alliances team is looking for.
Too Quiet this week! <!everyone> What’s something you’ve recently learned in CMA? 🎸 📚 🎤
How do you manage your "sleeping bears"? For those who lead lifecycle marketing - if you have customers not logging in, not using your product, etc. Do you :
A. Leave them alone and hope they do not cancel or ask for a refund?
B. Risk waking the bear and having them cancel by engaging via emails,1:1 outreach, etc?
If B, what have you found that works well to re-invigorate them? We have been trying a few different ideas and we have had trouble re-engaging these customers - although we did get some cancels 😞 - Wondering what is working for others. Thank you!
We officially have 450 members, welcome @Elsbeth Russell 🎉
Aww TY @Marie Elliott
Just piggy-backing off of @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)'s GREAT
to say a huge THANK YOU to this community. The kindness, friendship, education and support are simply the best ✨Oooh - love #2 and 3 from @Ciana Abdollahian.
@Rebecca Grossman I was asking myself what we’ve seen customers do here and the short answer is - “give them other things to do” that benefit both sides and are low lift for you.
Other examples I’ve seen:
• do a linkedin carousel post spotlight - a few quotes and promote on social (they’ll share too - so you reach their audience)
• Invite them onto a podcast
• Showcase their use case in a low fi post - screenshot of their site for example with a single quote about how chargebee enables them (they’ll also share)
• (+ ask them for a G2 review while you’re at it)
I just published a
- the first time I've used VFX animations in a testimony. I think it's often the case when you use non-customer broll/footage that it's boring, but check it out - feedback is welcome.Hi everyone! question for the group - I’ve always handled voice of client programming, including case studies, testimonials, webinars, etc. as the customer marketing manager. Recently we went through a bit of a re-org and I have a new manager, who believes VOC should live within our “content studio”. Has anyone ever gone through something similar and how did you re-align on roles/responsibilities with your manager? Guidance is hugely appreciated - thank you!
@Ciana Abdollahian 🙌
Hopping on to the Jobs call
Hi All - Anyone have a graphic or slide/presentation on soliciting to Sales team on the value of customer case studies - both sales and customer facing will work. It can be a challenge to work w our Sales / CS teams to get their customers to do case studies with us - so if you have a powerful graphically driven slide / impactful talking points plz do share?
Mary just created a <#C05CTRQGT32|>channel! Let me know if you are in the area so we can add you. I will be creating meet-ups for us :)
Hi @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) !! Forgive the delay! A group of us did end up meeting for a couple sessions on this topic. Thanks so much for prompting us to connect!
Hi Evan, I have led some customer roundtables with government customers. Feel free to DM me on Slack or call me at
.Hi RO users -- happy Friday! Hey, are any of you using the award points functionality for reference activities? If so, I'd love some guidance regarding how many points you're giving champions for completing those activities. Thank you in advance and have a great weekend!
We are on!!
Thank you @Liz Richardson!
@Danny Luu no worries! I was interested because our team works with the SDR team but it's more around what customer proof they can insert into their outreach.
Curious more about the approach of using SDRs to research advocates and last 5 companies they were at. Then reaching out for intros to people at those companies to see if they fit your ICP.
• Who is reaching out for the intro?
• How is this worded? I think there is an art to this and I feel like maybe the person who has the best relationship with the advocate would be the most appropriate to reach out?
• Kevin mentioned high conversion. Does he have a number for any of the companies that have done this? And for those conversions does he know lead quality? E.g. are those deals being lost after the first meeting or are they making it to the later stages?
Hi @Ciana Abdollahian - I don't have anymore insights at all.
Kevin normally spends 2-3 hours a day analyzing the community and research on a lot of things.
I can ping him though and see if he can provide me more insights for you though!
Hey @Angela Ferrante I’d love to connect 😃 Feel free to DM me or connect on LinkedIn and we can find a time!
@Ciana Abdollahian we’ve got some stuff in motion on this - would be happy to chat and would love to get your take!
TY 💃
Amazing @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) 🔥
Hi all! If possible I would love to join those chats if you haven’t yet done them @Randy Ksar I’m in the same boat - building out customer reviews when we have never had a program for it and I’d welcome the expertise 🙂
I appreciate the resources! I've spent all week going through LinkedIn's help pages, and finally got it working last night. Today I am wrestling with Zoom's auto-watermark that it apparently puts on external streams...nothing can ever be easy, eh? Definitely going to look at Streamyard or similar platforms for future webinars!
Hey <!everyone> I need someone to host today’s call, the smoke in NY has messed up my voice 😞 - coincidentally, I have to take my son to the GI as well, so I will get on the call and give someone the hosting capabilities then get off.
^we found the zoom linkedin integrations hard to navigate and moved to streamyard instead what is nice about it is that it gives you control of layout and using a ticker for call outs etc... It might be too late now but if you find yourself doing a lot of these it might be something to look into
Sure @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)
@Liz Richardson
Does anyone have experience with LinkedIn Live? Trying to coordinate a webinar through that platform and having trouble getting it to work with Zoom Webinar as the source.
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@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I present to you a
😀Thanks, Megan! Is it a 4-hour response time 24/7/365? Do you have a global team? Our team is only based in North America for the moment. Also, when you reach out to several customers, do you let them know they may/may not hear from the prospect? Just curious how you position things with them. Thanks so much!
Hi CMA Weekly Community!!! I’m taking a minute here to completely (and not humbly) BRAG about my boss
and the amazing work she has done with creating Reputation’s first ever national holiday 🎉 TOMORROW June 8th - in partnership with G2 is ⭐ With the goal in mind of creating a culture of feedback, Cassie thought to herself just a mere 10 weeks ago, to create this holiday… all while planning for our biggest customer event of the year I might add!!!!!!! I have known and worked with Cassie for 7 years and it’s been a true honor to see her thrive in this environment and completely own this amazing national initiative!!! 👏National Leave a Review Day is a holiday that all companies can benefit from. Reviews matter more than ever to a business - this holiday empowers marketers across all industries to encourage their customers to leave reviews for brands they do business with.
1. Feel free to check out the with resources about reviews best practices and to download the media kit.
2. Send out an email template to YOUR customers urging them to write you a review on any of your preferred platforms
3. Share on Social! We have set up a social monitor to track engagement #LeaveAReview and #ILeftAReview ⭐
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@Robin Raulf-Sager we respond back to the sales team within 4 hours of them submitting the request. We secure and pass over a reference to sales within 3-5 business days. We do reach out to several customers at once. If we don't hear from the customers we reached out to within 24 hrs we will reach back out with a friendly reminder to see if they're interested.
Hi everyone! 👋 I'm Truffle, and I'm here to help answer questions that come up in this channel.
I feel like this is a very specific ask, but hear me out. I am building a presentation to encourage our customer success team to get excited about and promote our customer advocacy program. I am a one-woman show right now running our program so we are going to be asking CSMs to help engage existing advocates, recruit new ones (as part of a much larger strategy.) I’ve been asked to put a focus on the importance of this program and to even make it a bit provocative (our company can’t succeed without the mobilization of our advocates kinda thing) - does anyone have any ideas for what I can include in this presentation? Things that maybe you’ve used when presenting to cross-functional team about the importance of advocacy/risks of lack of advocacy, data points, stats, etc? We just really want to drive our point across 😄
Completely understand @Ciana Abdollahian! A lot of things are at play. I have used adoption data to target customers for specific asks. So for example take the top 200 users out of 50,000 users and fine tune the target list. I have also joined customer kickoff celebration calls to talk about the program. Worked with L&D teams, they were given a program slide and directive for when they did kickoff training sessions at customer locations. Finally, at a former company had a peer review ask at the end of the NPS survey for those customer who gave 9 & 10 responses. It was not too successful however the setup for this was 10 minutes.
Thank you @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) @Daniel Palay 🙌 Just listened to the recording, so helpful to feel like we aren't alone in these opportunities to partner with Content. Thank you for sharing your insights, and @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) thank you for recording this 🙏
Sending you good vibes!
Most active Slack for Customer Marketing & Advocacy? That’s US - we now have more lifetime messages that another CMA community AND more posting members with a community 1/3 the size. You all ROCK!!
hey y'all! would love to connect with those of you that have built an awards program! we just launched our champions program and i am looking into building an awards program at some point.
things i would love to know:
1. how long did the application window open for?
2. did y'all allow AE's to submit on behalf of customers? (we found this to be a chaotic dumpster fire with our conference speakers because 1/2 the customers didn't know that they had applied to speak 🥴
3. did you run the same categories each year? (leaning towards this to be able to showcase easily on the website + enable the teams)
4. how many categories is realistically manageable?
5. any other points y'all might have!
I was curious if people were doing anything that was more programmatic e.g. having CSMs ask as part of onboarding who the team responsible for the product is, surveying within the product those who have high usage, NPS surveys, etc?
Question about your role supporting local lead gen events. If you have regional marketing managers holding local events for prospects, what is your team's role vs the regional marketer when it comes to:
1. Finding speakers for the events
2. Inviting customers to attend (main goal is to engage with prospects, secondary goal is engagement/retention)
And, how do you figure out where your contacts live with so many people do not living where their company has its HQ?
Thank you!
@Chuck Quigley I like this approach but the issue we have is we've had so much AE turnover on the accounts they haven't had time or put the effort to identify other advocates but this 100% something we need to put in practice for our top accounts!
Happy Friday! We lost 60% (yes, you read that right) of our references in the past year. Most of those were due to our contact leaving the company or impacted by a RIF. What are the tactics/programs you have implemented to become multi-threaded within accounts?
Common Room
Dovetail is used by many as is Qualtrics. It will be interesting to see how quickly established products can integrate AI vs newcomers who build it in right out of the gate.
What’re the sources?
Hey all, tomorrow is the call, who wants an invite?
Tomorrow is a call with Daniel Palay Content and Customer Marketing working together. 4PM EST - respond here for the link. <!everyone>
What do we think of the new CM Alliance Pro+ membership? $1499 a year includes their courses (like @Kevin Lau and @Bree Bunzel).
Hi Everyone--can any of you point me to examples of organizations that promote their customer advisory board members publicly on their website. I’ve seen a few examples of this but have forgotten the specific companies I’ve seen do this in the past.
IDK, but it’s an idea.
I wonder if this works for responses to comments on social media posts as well
We just had a conference where we received reviews and testimonials. We asked for a review on G2, and if they left the review they received a $25 Amazon gift card. We only received 9 reviews, as customers told us the process was too long. We had a booth set up with a QR code for customers to scan. For testimonials, we had customers sign up ahead of time and we took them to a room for a video testimonial where we already had questions laid out to ask them. These were scheduled for 45 minutes and went really well. In total, we received 10 great videos. We also had a "man on the street" style interview too, where we had an interviewer and camera man walk around during networking times and ask customers questions. If a customer either left a review or a testimonial, they received some swag from us including a Yeti.
Interesting find! Viff is a simple browser extension. I wonder how it would do with software reviews? Now to find time to try it 😅
I’m sure you all have read this already, but I just gave it a read and one could say I’m a… fan 😉
Happy Friday! Quick Question for the group: What are some gifts you like to give as a thank you for participating in a testimonial or case study?
How do you respond when a teeny tiny customer reaches out to do comarketing after seeing a case study that you promoted with a big name company? I don't want to say no, but, I need to focus my resources on bigger impact advocates. Offer if she gives us a quote or a video that we will promote it on social? Any other ideas?
On now
Did you find yours @Kristine Kukich
<!everyone> Hey community, I just want to say TY for helping us kind of get to 400 - it seems we have 406 but 20 of those are invites so we are close.
Please reach out if I say/do something wrong: I’ve been called out twice this week and I’m so glad people see me as approachable enough to ask/tell me I’m wrong.
TY for doing this, please keep doing it.
Today’s discussion is Open Discussion at 2PM EST; bring your wins, insights, obstacles, and needs for brainstorming.
I typically say that Enablement's expertise is how to teach people things, both employees and customers. Customer Marketing's expertise is which customers to share those teachings with, when, and how. So Enablement creates the materials, and Customer Marketing distributes them.
Looking for an Event Agency to help with our customer conference. We would like to have 2 customer conferences in Q4 (US and EU). Not sure we can manage all the details ourselves. Do any of you have experience with event agencies that you would recommend? I need someone to source the venue, advise on logistics, manage AV on site, etc. Thank you!
We have our own product, Zoom Whiteboard, which is part of the desktop app. Honestly, I should use it more, but the best use cases so far have been annual/quarterly planning with my team, or project retrospectives with cross-functional teams.
I've also used it for space layout/room design with our AV and Events team for CAB meeting planning.
Talk to me about how you've leveraged user conferences to gather customer testimonials and/or reviews! Below is my experience, but I want to hear what's worked well (or not) for others?
Reviews: Last year our social team had a booth where attendees could get a new headshot, and were asked to leave a G2 review at the same station. It was a bit of a flop (partially because the booth was very hard to find on the floor)
Testimonials: Before my time, we had a little studio set up to shoot formal customer interviews that were then turned into videos. Permissions sorted out in advance and B-roll added later (mostly stock). The output was ooookay, but it was nice to capture interviews while customers were in person.
Has anyone created Case Studies /Success Stories WITHOUT talking to the customer? We've got contractual logo use approval and sales had product marketing interview the customer's account manager to get details about how they are using the product but no one actually connected with the customer.
I am concerned with the difference between logo usage and telling a story publicly they didn't sign off on or even know would be written.
Wondering if this flow has worked for others, if I am just overreacting, etc.
Good luck to everyone speaking at CMA in Vegas today!
I know @Jessica Noland, @Kevin Lau, and @Ari Hoffman are speaking. Who else?
Anyone have any creative ways they’ve driven traffic to customer sessions at big tradeshows?
We’ve secured Okta & Snowflake to speak with us at AWS re:Inforce but we’re competing with all the other things we’re promoting (demos, exec meetings, party, etc.) in addition to competing with other vendors . I want to make sure we’re doing everything possible to get people to these sessions. We already have SDR emails, social posts, and we’re asking for the sessions to be promoted in our presentation space in our booth. We also have a landing page where they can register interest and add the sessions to their calendar.
Other teams (mostly our developer focused teams) use it pretty heavily where I where I work and but I don't 😂 I feel like it's clunky to be scrolling all over the place.
Yall don’t forget we have other channels: #linkedin to talk about LinkedIn posts & branding
chatgpt to talk about the AI and well… chat gpt
jobs to talk about finding work and sharing job openings
no vendor channel - ask for invite, respect everyone’s privacy - no sharing the topics/discussions/screenshots/etc
Hi @Lauren McCutcheon I agree with your ideas, @ and @Joel Primack - I think it’s a great long-term play to keep these advocates active and rewarded as long as they are happy with your company. If they’ve churned for negative reasons I would probably message and ask them to cash out their rewards and have them leave the program.
Something along the lines of “Hi [NAME], we’re sorry to hear you are no longer a customer. We loved having you in the customer advocacy program and hope to have you return someday. Please take a moment to cash out on any rewards as your account will be deactivated after 30 days. If you have any questions, we are here to help. Thank you again for your participation.”
Generally, I’d say that most companies do not keep these advocates, but I have seen more community members questioning whether they should. I think it’s a great idea and I’ve pushed for it in the programs I’ve owned because long-term advocates for the company will continue to come back to vendors they love throughout their career. A different journey is appropriate though, especially with a program like Influitive.
I hope some of this helps.
Hi CMA friends! This is kind of a random request but I thought I’d throw it out there. Has anyone ever created a “Rules of engagement” document for your organization? Essentially laying out how you work cross-functionally wrt to customers? Specifically for customer marketing but we will look to extend for our KOL program.
Yes
Will there be a recording shared?!
Thanks for attending today's call on expansion with Lauren! And a special thanks to @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) for allowing me to take over her weekly call to accommodate the schedule change 😄
Great conversation and questions.
I've just invited Lauren to join the community, hopefully she will. Have a great weekend everyone!
Good news & bad news: We have 367 members (says CommonRoom) so we must have 21 invites out (so cool). But, we won’t meet the 400 goal for the week.
However, since last Friday we have added 57 new members (following these numbers is tricky) so I must have been way off when I decided to shoot for 400. TY all for the support, I’m so excited to see us growing.
XOXOXO - Have a great weekend 🙂
Thank you Mary for posting this for me. What a week it's been! lol And thanks for sharing that Marie! We incentivize at the account level today (discounts on training, services, conference passes, etc.) but I'm curious if we evolve it to incentivize on the individual level instead to scale the program. But then we'll need to think through individuals rewards based on their profile (i.e. system adminstrator vs CIO). Lots to think through :)
Anyone else curious about changes with InSided and Gainsight? Will InSided automatically be available to Gainsight customers at no cost?
Share your work!!
This week you’ve probably sent some emails, put data in a spreadsheet, ran a challenge for customers, etc.
Your colleagues want to see what you are working on, support you, celebrate your wins, and learn from you.
So… what did you work on? What did you learn?
And, make sure you join our call at 2PM EST with @Rachel Ward on Expansion
Happy Friday ! Q for you all around CABs.
We currently have a very strong CAB with around 10 members - titles range from Director to VP. They are our boots on the ground - access to their data - championing our benefit.
What I am looking to build next is a C-Suite CAB - here is why. Our C-suite - who LOVE and support CAB, has asked for us to level up our CAB. I think we need to level up and create a new Executive CAB to pull in our C-suite-level clients. This meeting would work a bit differently. There would be one soul meeting agenda topic, led by either our CEO or COO and possibly a board member.
I would LOVE to speak to someone with both types of CABs to understand how you keep them separate and the successes/ failures you might have experienced.
Thanks!!
I can organize a metrics call as well if anyone would like.
My SF Admin is building out a dashboard currently, I can share once built (we don't have the ability to build some of what's on this list today, but are working towards it)
Hope this helps:
I can coordinate, when is a good time for each of you? @Kevin Lau @Ari Hoffman @Laurie Timms @Mindy Youngs @Rachel Ward
Hi Rebecca- We (at Referential) have a metric we run for CLTR/V (client lifetime revenue/value) to show the increased spend of advocates over time. It's not easy to run without a CRM & RMS, but it can be done! I'd be happy to chat with you about this. Also, here's a slide to show a few ROI metrics, if this is useful:
I can share what I’m working on/what I look at as well
@Andru Creighton and I collaborated on
We've sat in so many of Mary's awesome weekly calls and shared our experience (as a vendor and a consultant) on how best to design your Sales Reference process. It's a necessary evil for so many programs and yet so many don't know where to start. So, we've made it super simple! And—the process works if you have a dedicated advocacy platform, a process in spreadsheets, or Slack, or whatever! We're meeting you wherever you might be. Check it out! We'd love any and all feedback. This is part 1 of a 3-post series helping to ease the burden on CMA-ers.Hi all - I'm reworking my metrics slides for advocacy, lifecycle and expansion. My questions are:
• does anyone have a monthly dashboard of metrics they are willing to share?
• has anyone figured out an ROI on their Advocacy Program that does not have a self selection bias? I'm thinking of something like an Advocate Revenue Growth metric that compares ARR of those in the program divided by ARR of those not in the program and watching how the numerator grows over time. Thoughts? I'd rather not just say my advocates stay longer, spend more, etc when compared to non-advocates as it has too much self selection, in my opinion. But, I will also have my bigger customers in my advocacy program, so they will automatically have higher ARR.
Hey there…Happy to jump on a call to provide insights about SlapFive and CMSs, integrations and more 😊
LOL keep them guessing - maybe it would have helped to have a follow up video/demo they could go to?
I just kept thinking, well, there goes another point I won't have time to talk about, and another, and another...you get the picture. Eventually I was just like, alright, well, isn't that what a second date is for? I prefer to be a woman of mystery and intrigue, clearly.
For all you Stephen King lovers out there, this was taken at The Stanley Hotel - inspiration for The Shining!
I'm late to the game, but love seeing all of your kiddos! This is mine, Campbell, she'll be 9 in exactly one month!
🤪 Let’s get this party moving!!
I’d love to see us get to 400 members this week - Can you help? 🆘
Share this post, comment to invite your friends, love the post, love the comments.
Share your support for CMAweekly (it’ll make me smile). 😂
Not specifically with these CMS options, unfortunately! But it looks like there's lots of folks who might have exactly what you need 🙂
@Alexie Glover might have someone as well.
Thaank you, yeah it was a lot to try to fit in and really only scratch the surface. I didn't think it was possible to share much of anything in ten minutes so hoping I did it some justice. Slowing it down to .5 speed will make it feel normal I think hah!
You did great @Rob Ayre I wondered who’s idea it was to do a demo that comprehensive so quickly but you nailed it. When the video comes out I’m hoping to be able to bookmark when it started so I can link people to it. So many companies want to create communities and drive advocacy.
Hah!! I've never spoken so quickly in my life, absolutely blacked out while also trying to keep an eye on the little ticker clock.
That was even a lot for me! I had to go out for wings and a beer after work, lol, and I don't do that very often these days. Kudos to everyone fitting it in so quickly. I will say that @Rob Ayre seemed to have speed talking down to a science. @Jennifer Land did too. @Alison Bukowski and @Katlin Hess you did fine 🙂 I know I would have been cut off. Lots to unpack today. Glad I wasn't the only one whose head was buzzing.
Thanks @Serena Schlaile. My email is
.Ok cool!
Thanks, @Iulia Davidoiu! @Sarah McCoy, our tech specialist, @Martin Galtieri, can definitely provide valuable insights based on his experience. Let me know if you'd like to chat, Sarah, and we can schedule a quick 15-minute call. Coffee is on us! 😊
Yes, @Katlin Hess, agreed - those links are helpful; and we offer options like that at PeerSpot as well...I actually like using some of those links as well for different business units to create some friendly competition. It's amazing how sales and CS like to go at it when there's a prize on the line 😉
Agreed with all of @Alison Bukowski’s tips! I see a lot of "send us a screenshot" or submit a form after you send in your review -- which means you can usually figure out who submitted the review based on timing.
At G2 we also offer UTM'd links for campaigns, so at my last job we had links that were specific to each CSM, AM and me. If there wasn't anything in the review that signaled who they were, I could trace back whose link the review came through and then narrow it down to who that person had sent an ask to and map back to their industry and company size.
It's a little bit of detective work, but hugely satisfying when you solve the mystery
I'd never really thought about this, but your responses are so helpful, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) and @Alison Bukowski !
@Katlin Hess do you have any thoughts on this? I’m sure you have others do this.
I’m putting out the last call for sponsors today!! Let me know if you or your company is interested.
The list is far too long to present here 🙂 But we need to get over the whole "anonymous reviews don't matter" mindset. They are hugely valuable! - you can ask someone to provide their name without organization and then it's simple to pull up their LinkedIn profile when speaking to showcase who they are...you can ask them to let you know, which many true advocates will so that you can keep track. I did my own incentive once for people who wanted to remain anonymous so they didn't feel left out, and the response was tremendous - they simply sent me a screen shot of their review; they were happy to do that extra thirty seconds and my leadership team was thrilled I was keeping track for metrics purposes.
Anyone else completely paralyzed by all of this AI? I feel a little overwhelmed.
For example, I took a few past episodes and put them through one of the generators. It spits out the transcript, timestamped overviews, LinkedIn & Twitter posts, quotes, potential titles, articles, links mentioned, speaker bios, introductions, summaries and a newsletter.
There’s already so much content out there, what’s the point of adding more? Am I overthinking this?
(And LMK if you want me to record a demo of this on Vouch)
Hey @Alexie Glover and @Jeanne Talbot. Just jumping in as I’m Head of Content at Vouch, so am often editing clips in the platform myself!
Technically you’re right Jeanne. There isn’t currently a feature that allows you to clip out the middle of a response. My work around for this is adding the clip I want to edit to a Playlist, twice. Then you edit out the middle section and share/ download as you wish. Not ideal if you need to edit multiple sections, but works pretty well if there’s just a middle section you want to remove. And the transition is always pretty smooth.
I’ll pass on your valuable feedback to the team. And if you have any other questions just shout 🙂
And thanks so much for the kind words @Ari Hoffman 😇
Slight update to this next Monday's expansion meetup. Our speaker needed to move her time so @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) has graciously offered her and me the opportunity to take over her Friday weekly CMA chats.
So if you were joining us Monday to hear from Lauren Sanborn chat about customer marketing attribution and scoring models, it will now be Friday May 19th @ 2PM ET
I will send an update through the event platform as well. Sorry for the change, hope this means more people can join. 😄
Honestly, I don’t remember the goals of others just where I was which was a team under Brand/Corporate team in Marketing.
Interesting @Joel Primack thanks for sharing. Were the metrics oriented towards sales, or did they also have goals for current customers?
Loving it! Thanks for sharing!
Happy to share a bit more, @Jan Young 😊
The 3 pillars under our CMO were:
• Brand/Corporate Marketing: Content, Web, Social, Community, Customer Marketing (now moved under Revenue Marketing)
• Revenue Marketing: Demand Gen, Customer Demand Gen (who customer marketing now rolls up to), Paid, Marketing Ops
• Product/Segment/Solution Marketing
Hope it’s helpful!
- I agree the formatting is weird and makes it hard to follow the convo, but I think I got the main points.
- @Joel Primack can you elaborate on the 3 marketing pillars that reported to your CMO? I'm very curious...
- @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I think part of the challenge is Customer Marketing has split identities between a focus on prospects and existing customers. a. Work for existing customers benefits from a closer relationship to the team that works with them (CS) b. Work for prospects benefits from a closer relationship to the team that works with them (Marketing)
- But the real problem is that GTM is really pre-sales and post-sales. Pre- and post- are intimately related because they are all customers (future vs current). (Which is why I'm curious about Joel's example of 3 pillar Mktg program)
- Marketing SHOULD have a focus on both pre and post, but in Sales Led Growth companies they do not because the CEO and investors/ board are focused on prospects/ new sales not current customers. This has been revealed as the problem that it is with our changing economy and expensive $. When customers no longer grow on trees and have to be grown through the post sales process, you need Customer Marketing to not only develop comms and materials for top of funnel but also for current customers.
- SO... I would say CMs, Lifecycle, Advocacy, Community should all be under Marketing IF Marketing had goals for pre and post sales, but I haven't seen that animal lately. That's why I usually advise for CMs, Advocacy, Community to live with CS.
- As for Lifecycle - I would love to get some clarity on that. That may be an area I'm weak on. It could be in part because as a consultant I help companies that are in trouble. I haven't seen any startups look at full lifecycle. I usually help them build out the post-sales customer journey. Anything I've seen from Marketing has been pre-sales focused. Any insights on best practices in this area would be welcome!
At my past 3 companies where I was in customer marketing-
1st one - I reported to Director of Marketing
2nd - Director of Customer Education/Enablement (who reported up to VP of Customer Success), then eventually moved over to Marketing - (in this position I only focused on lifecycle comms, not advocacy)
3rd (current) - Director of Demand Gen
When I was at the 2nd company, I really liked being on the same team as all our customer facing teams, it helped with collaboration, understanding our customers more, etc, however I definitely felt on an island since, at the end of the day lifecycle comms is marketing work, CS is a whole different world and job field.
On the demand gen team I kind of do my own thing since they have completely different goals, I'm still happy on the team though since it makes it easy to know what everyone's working on so we can repurpose and market each other's work, etc. I do think eventually once I grow out my team though I wll end up reporting to the CMO
Whew that is a long winded answer but hope that helps @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) happy to chat about this anytime.
ok, I cut down the original deck to save some confidential stuff, but here's the case-study & customer heavy slides:
10 minutes to our User Groups and Community Friday call
<!everyone> #toomanynotifications - sorryAnyone interested in a call on Customer Led Growth and Product Led Growth?
Great conversations! @Daniel Palay @Alexie Glover @Sarah Koval Please share the samples with me too - would be super helpful.
@Ciana Abdollahian Currently, I have added some text as Speaker Notes in G Slides but I'm planning to move these slides to a Highspot-like tool we use and removing all speaker notes so even if AEs share the decks, there's no sensitive information shared. How are you planning to include the script? Do your AEs strictly don't share these decks across (or) your script will be neutral that even if the prospects view it, it won't reveal that the AE just did a scripted demo?
<!everyone> a few updates
I broke the rules, I posted about this Slack in the old Slack, and we are getting a nice influx of new members - Yay!!
Second!! @Ashley Ward ty for the reminder to shout to all of the wonderful moms in our space - what was I thinking?!
To all of you with children; thank you for raising the next generations and giving so much back to this world. I love knowing you, helping you, and working with you (#nocmahastoworkalone).
I don’t always know if you have kids, and some of you have fur babies, happy mother’s day to you too. The people in this space are so nurturing. TY for helping each other, kicking me in the butt when I need it, and being great people.
@Ashley Ward @Rachel Ward @Leslie Barrett @Liz Richardson @Jeanne Talbot @Val Geisler @Alison Bukowski @Allison Hughes @Amanda Peacock @Amanda Meinert @Sarah McCoy
And I’m so embarassed to say Idk all of you who are moms. So please heart below if you are.
HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY!!
So far its good... most of the expansion/upsell currently is around product/feature/service usage which is all messaging and strategy that PMM owns so it makes sense. Advocacy moved to brand mid 2022, which has been good but makes all my customer story focus on brand-level stories (top of funnel). This meets the goals of my team/manager (VP brand) but not always helpful for sales/FMM further down the funnel.
Head of Growth PMM started in Feb. It's relatively new so I am interested/excited to see how the partnership will work.
How interesting @Caroline Englert do you find that to be a good approach?
At my company we don't have a formal Customer Marketing function... Expansion/retention efforts actually live in PMM, in a "PMM Growth" team. Customer Advocacy lives in brand
@Val Geisler I have no idea how this thread came about, I’m not sure what I did. I was copying out old threads to keep and must have somehow pasted it and entered. @Rachel Ward
Corporate Marketing owns it, but I'm responsible for it? If that makes sense.
Thank you Leslie and Kevin!
The formatting of this thread is super weird but I love the intention behind it. I don't think there's one right answer here. At my last org our customer advocacy team sat inside PMM. I was making a pitch to expand the remit to full customer marketing but they decided to hire a "success at scale" team inside CS instead. TBH the role was exactly what I pitched for customer marketing, just a different title and reporting structure (and, therefore, goals).
I got into CMA because of my lifecycle and retention background so I clearly am aligned to retention and expansion goals being a key component of customer marketing but not every org thinks that way.
FWIW, case studies ownership at my org is rather nebulous. Ideas bubble up from product marketing or account management. I (customer marketing that reports into demand gen) project manage getting from idea to intro call. CMO and VP of Brand do the interviewing and outreach to the customer. Then I'm pretty hands off. No goals are tied to number of cases studies or topics or anything. I think technically I'm in charge of storage maintenance.
Yes please!! I may be OOO on the first, but please invite me. I'll catch the recording if I miss it!
I'll be out that day but I'd love to watch the recording after! 🙂
I’d love one too please haha. I’m based in the UK but this is a great topic.
😊@ and @Melissa DiBernardo let me know if you want an invite for Jun 1st at 4PM EST on this topic.
thank you!
andI can do that in a bit. Email address?
amazing 🙌 @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) do you send a cal invite out? I'd love to add my teammate Deanna to this as she'll be driving some key programs tied to this topic
now this is content that will drive attendance any day
Aww
Yes!!
if it helps, i can promise my cat will make an appearance
Nice! I’ll see if I can get more international people on the call.
and funny enough, I'm hosting our internal tri-weekly meeting between our customer advocacy team and our content team tomorrow. I'll see if i can use any of that meeting to help our discussion on June 1
Perfect!!
oh shoot, i'm seeing @Bree Bunzel’s day of the week request, yes, I can make that work. Just need to move a meeting around on my end. So Thursday, 1 June @ 4:00 pm EDT / 1:00 pm PDT?
Can you do 4pm est that day?
I know it's a long way away, but how does June 2 work for you @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)?
Thank you all, this is so helpful 🙏 Would love to chat on this. @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I'm Sydney based so ideally an EST Thursday 4/5 pm would be ideal but also no need to solve for me if majority can't do then!
Hey hey! Quick question for the group. How many of you public company advocacy folks are responsible for securing approval from new win customers for inclusion in the earnings announcement? Any tips or tricks to share? Lots of deals close right at the end of the quarter, and my team only has a few weeks to gather the new win data, reach out to reps for story background, draft a blurb, and have the rep put the blurb in front of the new win customer for approval.
The best way I've had it work was for the head of content to create a content advisory group, of which I was a member, that met periodically to go over the strategic needs of the company and what content should be produced. It resulted in a lot less jargon-laden stuff, with more heart and customer-centric tone.
@Jennifer Lyons yes that's a great point! We were planning for quote slides as well. Our AE team is very green so if we don't give them something simple with a script it's really hard to drive adoption! I think my strategy is to start simple and then add once we see adoption and get some feedback.
👀following
But also wanted to add, I’d suggest you plan for multiple slide types so you don’t limit your team’s ability to cover the available content appropriately. A too rigid format can limit your ability to communicate important aspects of of a customers story for a specific opportunity. For example:
A quote slide format
A traditional set of case study bullets (challenge, solution, results)
An open-ended format suitable for prose
Sure, but I know @Daniel Palay is out for the next two weeks, what Friday makes sense for you Daniel (if you don’t mind)?
@Daniel Palay I'd love to hear more too! Wondering if this could be a call topic. I'd love to see how the most efficient teams are organized and operating @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) :)
Thanks @Sarah Koval! Appreciate ya
let me grab one from an AE @Ciana Abdollahian - I definitely have some examples for you!
oooof the comments are rough. One of the responses from Brevo is "We communicated the upcoming change in last week's product newsletter" but that still seems like not nearly enough lead time or communication for something that seems to have a lot of ripple effects..... thanks for flagging @Rebecca Grossman!!
Adding onto Lauren's comment: Don't the teams talk with each other? Wow. All this could've been avoided. Regardless of what the change is, it should be raised internally first, just in case.
Hey all, has anyone had someone run their CAB for them? I see someone asking in another community. @Kristine Kukich I feel like you might know of someone who has done this. @Ashley Ward @Alexie Glover @Jeanne Talbot any of you?
would be super interested in seeing that @Amanda Schulte if you wouldn't mind sharing with me as well 😄
@Maria Braune if you google eisenhower matrix, you'll find dozens of images and smartsheet has a template, lots of free resources...
Shouldn't have been capitalized. Not an acronym or anything. I just use hub as a another word for community. 😅
Hey @Harikrishna P! Ideally, there is collaboration between Sales and Customer Marketing (honestly, in the most ideal world, Sales would own the entire process 😅). In reality, it’s usually all Customer Marketing.
It’s a great way to ingratiate yourself to the Sales team though! We mostly use a SFDC report of recent Closed-Won deals, draft the details based on the Opportunity Record and then run the draft by the Sales Rep responsible for the deal. We also include any MSA/Marketing Agreement information right on the slide so we can easily see at a glance what the customer has agreed to (logo, name, case study, etc.).
It’s a quick win, hugely benefits the sellers at your org (especially if you make it searchable by product/service sold/use case/whatever component is important to your sellers), lays the groundwork for a larger win/celebration culture to motivate Sales, doesn’t appear to be an asset that only benefits CMA, but in reality, it’s your pipeline!
Does anyone do anything to "star" new customers that recently closed on their deal, but you want to closely track their customer journey for advocacy in the future? For example; right now I just make a calendar reminder for myself, but was wondering if anyone had their sales team mark something on the account level in their CRM
Hey <!everyone> I can’t host the call today so I’m canceling. I’ll send an email as well. Ty all.
Great thinks to think about - thank you both!
@Amanda Schulte Please do share!!! Would be very helpful
When you publish case studies on websites or as PDFs, do you hyperlink main keywords to your internal feature/solution landing pages? I want to try it, because if someone is interested, it hand-holds them to learn more and I believe it helps with SEO too. But will it seem borderline sales-y? That is, in the readers' eyes, will we look inward-facing instead of showcasing customer wins?
At the beginning of this year I rejoined our marketing team (for the last two years I was responsible for customer education) and now I’m tasked with doing some customer success stories. There is no real process or template from previous ones and I’m pretty free to come up with anything.
Do you have any tips or things I should be aware of not to do?
To keep work on my side to a minimum (#domorewithless 😉 )I was thinking of sending a couple of questions via email instead of real interviews.
Hey ya'all! I am doing an HUB pulse check. What are some questions you guys like to ask your members?
Hi all - we are finishing up a white paper report on a topic that is highly relevant to our clients. As I build out our channel plan, our first step is to "launch" the paper to our existing clients before we broaden the reach to prospects and our greater target market. Has anyone done anything like this before? What tactics did you find successful in framing up the exclusivity of getting a sneak peek?
As I’ve been working away on upcoming projects, what are some of the wins you’ve experienced in the last 2 weeks? <!everyone>
Happy happy joy joy to you Mary
Does anyone have a killer win slide template that they think rules all others?? Would love to hear which elements you think are essential and which are overdone.
Congrats to everyone who made the Fearless 50 and Elite 18 lists, I’m voting for you. 🙂
Hello, all - I'm on the road this week doing a customer event, so delayed responses 🙂 I am happy to chat with anyone - I've done ICCAP and Captivate, as well as Kevin Lau's and Leslie Barrett's courses. I like to learn AND support the community 🙂
happy birthday queen!
Happy birthday!!
HBD Mary! 😄
TY all, 41 is such a weird number. We had a nice weekend away. I finally got rocking chairs for my front porch. I’ve wanted them for about 4 years but refused to pay $100+ each. They were on sale at Ollies for $60 each. And I got a set of TED Talk books for $8. Innovation, Creativity, & Leadership.
Happy birthday Mary!
Happy birthday!!
Happy birthday!
Idk it’s right into blue ridge city limits about 15 min from downtown
Happy birthday Mary!! Hope you had an awesome day and that this year is your best year yet!
@Rachel Ward where in the Blue r
Ridge Mountains?
You know I’m in @Leslie Barrett
Would anyone like to preview and give me feedback on my new 70 page ebook before I release it? 😳
@Jeanne Talbot not that I'm aware of, I've only used it as a standalone tool.
Does VV integrate with Salesforce?
I also look at my schedule for the next two weeks every morning, and every evening before I close down for the day. Any day that already has 4 meetings on it gets blocked for the rest of the day, so no other meetings can be scheduled. Everything else is auto-declined.
Now with functional link! (Sorry!)
Hey everyone -- hope your week is 'ending on a high note!
• I'm working to plan out the future 'case study' calls as part of this community
• Because these calls are for YOU (yes, you!) I'd love to get a bit of feedback on what would be most compelling to cover.
• My hope is to bring you practical, tangible, go-do-this stuff while leaving the floor wide open to learn and share together with the smart folks here.
I put together this little form to get your quick feedback on what would be most helpful:
Would you take a moment to share?
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) -- this is what I mentioned when we connected earlier, I hope it's OK to share here!
I'm very much a "newbie", but after my last position I try to create as much visibility as possible into my position so people from other departments understand what I am doing and what is to come. In any trainings I do I explain what customer advocacy is (99% sure sales just thinks I do references) and it really helps with some of the requests I get that I just do not have the time to put the energy into. For me personally, I can not be good at my job if I'm burnt out or overextended so I'm always very honest (But also very nice and excited about their ask) and realistic when I can get to their project.
Late to the party here - I think it comes from time and learning - and getting tired of over-extending as Kristine said. And honestly over-extending and then not getting any kudos or even a thank you for doing so. But I also apply a tactic that I use for managing my anxiety as well - stop for a second, take a breath - set aside the email for five minutes or tell the person who asked to let me process for a bit. Then I seriously sit and think what I will have to sacrifice at work or at home to complete the task - that helps me because usually it involves having to miss something else important. And then I go to the "I really want to help, but I have these five priorities right now" talk track. In other words, you have to frame yourself properly before you can respond/frame the discussion with someone else.
Friends I have exciting (but still hush hush) news: as most of you know, I was part of a RIF at Klaviyo in March and just this week I've signed a contract for a new role! Since my heart is in ecommerce and I've run an agency and worked on the SaaS side, I'm going in house with a brand to lead retention and lifecycle marketing. I'm super stoked about this and it will be the perfect combination of my lifecycle and CMA backgrounds. For example, my first 90 days will include setting the foundation for a CAB! Anywho, still private info for now (will announce after my first day in a few weeks) but wanted to share with this family as you all have been so supportive.
Now it's time for Operation Get @Tim Jahn A Job! Tim was on my team at Klaviyo and is an incredible CMA'er, human, and thought partner. Let's get Tim into his next role! 💛
@Robert Maddox oh shoot! Flew out this AM! Sorry to have missed it
Check out my company’s booth - Delinea. They should be sending me out next year to create customer content!
We also don't have a formal sales enablement function, so it falls on marketing to encourage and ensure sales is using the materials created. I have found success doing a few things: 1) Putting the materials in the place where they are (as Melissa said) - in this case it's a Sales Enablement drive folder that they have to go to for all their decks and other materials); 2) Only create materials that are agreed upon between sales, CS, and marketing - we have a bi-weekly call and we discuss what is needed, being used, etc. and we vote on what should move forward on my priority list - this helps ensure I'm not wasting time on things they won't use; 3) I send an email every month or so that highlights EVERY TIME where they will find the resources and then also calls out the new resources and which ones are going to be the best to use at that point in time.
oooo that makes sense. I've been trying to work on the amount of advocates that respond to challenges/ log in so I've been wondering what others have seen
Who enables your sales team to use all your amazing customer stories during the sales process? Is that your role? Or someone in sales enablement? I want to do more to help our sales team know when/how to use backpocket stories as well as published ones. But in my past orgs Enablement took the lead on this, so I'd love to learn from you all. What is your role? How do you partner with sales? Does anyone have any examples you would be willing to share here or via DM? Thank you!
I’m not Joe, but hey, I have an opinion and I’m happy to share. I do count advocates as engaged if they login bc they probably saw a challenge, they were interested in what was going on. I hope Joe answers too.
I am horribly late but advocates engaged each month. Also interested in how people define engaged.
@Joe Huber (he/him) Do you count them as active if they just sign in but don't do any challenges/comment?
Does anyone have a view on responding to user reviews in B2B software? Better yet, have an example of what good looks like?
In B2B, responding to reviews, at least publicly, is the exception rather than the rule, which seems odd.
I worked with a freelance writer on a piece to research the topic and find real examples of good review responses. I think she did a great job with that task, but I'm still wondering what B2B customer advocacy folks think about responding to reviews and what good looks like to them.
I'll admit, I have no direct experience on this topic (and I worked at Influitive, where I don't recall it ever coming up. They do respond to some reviews now, and Alex seems to be doing a good job with it).
I'd appreciate any insight the community can share here, and I'd happily include it in the post. Here's the
, which could use more real-world insight.I hope this doesn't come off as a promotional post. I'm looking to level up the post so it's more helpful to the community.
Simple math, but proves a point - our new community, coming up on it's first year since we started the beta, is performing, on average, at 180% of the normal benchmarks on activity that other customers of our tool are doing. Patting myself on the back.
What can people tell me about "
"? It hit my radar today and their business model seems to be to mine B2B vendor websites for case studies for testimonials, create profile pages, and then ask those vendors for money to have any control over the content displayedI don't love that they are pulling case studies from our website, featuring some that are almost a decade old and adding in logos we may not have explicit approval to use. It also looks like they marked us as a "premium customer" when I'm pretty sure no one at Zoom is paying them for that subscription (but looking into it).
I don't think our customers and prospects are going here for decision-making and my gut response is to just let them do their thing and not associate, while we place our focus on review sites that carry more weight. Am I missing something though?
Congrats Amanda! Enjoy your time with your beautiful family!
Sorry to have missed today's call! Can't wait to see the recording and what was shared. TGIF all!
This was a great meeting. The ideas that were shared were super-useful and doable.
We had a great call today about building up your strategy for priorities, here’s a slidedeck from Daniel on building out your abilities based on team size
First call in awhile, it was great to be back, good conversation!
Sorry to miss today. I’m having a mental health day.
Friday call, in a few minutes
Hi friends ... Finally catching up on slack .. welcomed Louis Theodore to the 🦚 family early last week 💙 thanks for everyone reaching out!! Let me know if you want to be spammed with baby pics big brother Kenneth is obsessed with little Lou!
References question - does anyone give prospects a self service interface to find and connect with customer references? Does a product like this exist? What if we sent a link to prospects, let them search and filter, then reach out to schedule a call with a customer who met their needs for a reference? Tell me what you love and hate about the idea.
Very cool! looking forward to this!
Curious what your #1 favourite customer story question is?
<!channel> what are you working on this Thursday?
Who’s ready for tackling Doing More with Less (or better mantras) tomorrow?
No call on case studies today!
Customers love talking about their mission for their team and their goals, not just about their organization's goals. That's why I focus upfront on that.
Hi All, I hope I'm not too late to the conversation, but it's Cynthia Cooper formerly of Dell Customer Reference and Advocacy.... The question sets I use always begin, as you all do probably, with a good solid background of who they are, focused on the customer's goals, mission, why did they decided to digitally transform their environments and footprints, and what if any philanthropic efforts is the customer's organization involved with that they can talk about - brings a bit of a human side to my story telling. Then I will lead with digital transformation and innovation - then I get into the product deep dive but not too technical. I'd be happy to share anything that anyone might want to take a look at 🙂 Hope this helps.
My thought is: I like it from the personalization POV and using social proof (success stories), but mixed feeling on the actual tactic vs that person sharing it (via a trackable link) with me as part of an act of advocacy because they thought I’d benefit from it vs getting hit up by a rep
Love @Brelynn Shantz’s idea for added relevance, too. I have so many connections I’d never recognize on name value only.
I’d wonder if the individual would’ve appreciated a heads up on this specific use case. It’s probably covered in a release form, but since you’re marketing with their name, it feels a whole lot more personal.
Really interesting strategy though; curious to see how it performs!
Our sales team was sharing this post yesterday, so it'll be interesting to see if any of them try it.
My first thought when I saw this was I have a lot of Linkedin connections I don't necessarily know, so name dropping might not actually mean anything to me.... I'd almost add another layer, look at the 'star of the stories' recent posts and see who has been interacting with their posts and might actually value their thoughts. I get so many emails that try to add personalization and they completely miss the mark and I think it's just because teams aren't spending enough time doing proper research.
Hi there! Is anyone using
for their advocacy portal? I have a question and am looking for help from other Base customers!Can’t wait to hear how it goes for y’all, @Evan Huck!
i think it's interesting. It's bold, but it's hyper-relevant social proof, and much more targeted than the general automated stuff an SDR sends, so I'd assume it gets. a lot higher conversion rate. will try it w/our SDRs and report back!
Interesting, I think it would take a lot of careful digging to make sure the connection is obviously someone who would use your product or be interested in the pain points/results even if not a practitioner. And, as someone else indicated, be cautious of competitors. I think I'll run it by some of my sales folks to see their thoughts. Thanks for sharing!
Are they opting in to the early access, or are you giving early access and expecting some to provide a quote?
We finally launched our customer newsletter! (Thanks to everyone who offered their insights as we developed our content plan!! Now, I'm finding the reporting I'm getting from our Ops team is pretty basic, but if I'm going to ask for more, I want to be very specific on what I want. For those of you who do customer newsletters, what kind of metrics do you look at - whether it's to report to leadership or to make future decisions on content, or for other purposes?
How about a session where people share their very best customer stories and the group can vote for a winner? Can customer stories be shared at an unconference?
Helpful to know Kaily, ty.
I know you have a diff system, but as an FYI for the community, there are customers using SlapFive for this because you can create custom fields yourself. Funny enough, the feedback that led to this were clients asking for ways to track birthdays and also we had some folks who hit field limits in SFDC so they and their reps weren't able to track/filter by things like “product family” or “use case”. So we created the concept of “dynamic fields” which can be added in the back end at any time on the member level, company level, or on request forms (so you can change the request form without going through SFDC admins)
Thanks so much! I'll check it out!
I think it depends on the audience in a way, some customers are perhaps a bit more open to "fun and funky" names, but then some are a bit more conservative. Personally I like the more interesting names, but that would not work with our customers sadly 😞
Absolutely, let me know how I can help
HUGE shoutout to King @Kevin Lau for absolutely crushing it on his CMA session today. If you didn’t have time to join, I highly recommend you watch the recording!!!
Hi all,
Two jobs just came across my feed:
at Samsara (role has been open for a while but recruiter confirmed today they are still looking)
at Jobvite (a good friend of mine is friends with a VP, Marketing there)
Please reach out if you'd like me to refer you in!
OK I’ll share after.
I also have a DR appt and will be out all day on Friday.
Hi all, My job was impacted by company-wide lay-offs this week. Please keep me in mind if you hear of opportunities. Thanks!
Looks like we will do 4/21
ok
I'd like to join the call :)
A question for everyone: What are some of the best Advocacy Program Names you've encountered?
e.g., Salesforce Trailblazers or Cisco Insiders
Can't wait to see who you nominate @Jan Young
I like that a lot @Jeanne Talbot, any company or power couple specifically come to mind? I can reach out to put together a call.
Check it out!!
Hi there folks, anyone have a recommendation for a video production 🎥🌟 company you've used in the Las Vegas area who could come on site to a conference to record some short video testimonials for a few hours for 2-3 days? Many thanks for any leads in advance!
I could not agree more. This is so exciting. I also think we need to nurture the CMOs who do get it and get them on the speaker circuit within marketing. conferences that THIS is the topic of the year or even team them up with their CCO for what Forrester calls "the power couple" type of presentations.
Thank you so much @Ciana Abdollahian.
Knowing you and your track record, this will be wildly successful! Happy to support in any way. As always, thanks for doing everything you do to elevate CMA pros!
It hits the mark for clarity and design, and communicates your intent really well. I’m sure it’s going to resonate broadly and make a fantastic splash!
@Andrew Sevillia I think I have a Pacific Bell Old School Baseball Shirt in the bin upstairs from back in the days when I could walk from work to the ballpark.
okay y'all. my first official post. I am working on revamping the ghost email copy for a reference/peer to peer call...would love to see what others have seen success with!
Same questions as Mary!
That said, I’m running a “community of practice” that’s on a subscription model.
I would like to see:
50-70% of our members signing in monthly (active users).
30% of the active users participating (creating a post or commenting).
We are seeing:
50% of our users as Monthly Active Users (MAU).
12-18% of the MAUs participating.
@Tracy Carson, congrats on the new role
My 2 cents - and of course it depends on the metrics Community is tracking / their goals - but I actually don't think they should be combined because of the metrics/goals thing. Typically, CM&A is trying to show the impact on potential revenue or closed-won actual revenue and Community is more focused on engagement, retention, support ticket deflection, and maybe more - but this is what I've seen. As such, when charting out goals, there is a bit of a disconnect. Sure, you can leverage Community to identify advocates and to enrich their experiences, but at the end of the day... I suppose I am in a mindset that the ultimate function of customer marketing & advocacy is to accelerate deals and assure prospects (including existing customers who are expanding w/ your portfolio) that others like them have done this before. I think the function of CM&A works best when aligned with Comms or Brand OR customer experience if you have a model where CSMs or TAMs are in a position to source your best customers for advocacy marketing. If you are a CM who also has lifecycle marketing under your umbrella, then maybe aligning with Community works out a bit better.
My go-to is "What would have happened if you hadn't implemented x,y,z?" Especially helpful if the customer needs a bit of prodding to explain the impact of the product or solution. I am sure it is on the previously shared lists!
Had the first 2 of 6 roadshows on cyber security and infrastructure with customer speakers.
<!everyone> as we head into the long weekend focused on remembering our past and celebrating our future, I want to take a moment to give a major shout out to @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly).
She spends her time
1. helping us all level up for our individual growth
2. connecting us to each other so we have a larger sphere of support and influence
3. dismantling shitty marketing tactics of those who want to pray on us
4. providing therapy by keeping it real and human so we all don’t cry every single day
AND… she does ALL OF THIS
for free.
Sometimes I know it can feel lonely, Mary, when you do a lot of this out of the goodness of your heart and without a team to relay on, so I want to remind you that WE ALL LOVE AND CHERISH you and the work you do for us all.
IF we all had more Mary in our lives, we’d all be better off.
Happy Easter and Passover for those that celebrate and for those that don’t, I hope you have a wonderful weekend =)
what do you mean? Can you do a video screen grab of what you’re talking about @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)?
Sooo… LinkedIn has made some changes. If you’ve been using the bell to get notifications when someone posts, it’s not totally working. I haven’t been getting the notifications for some of the first people to whom I subscribed to ALL posts. I think it must just do the last several.
And, now when you click it the first time, instead of going to ALL posts (which it had been for me), it’s only doing TOP posts, so you have to click twice.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they are making this change because it drives people away from Sales Navigator.
Oh heck yes, what a great idea!
Hey Harikrishna, I'm a few months late here, but better late than never, especially since review generation is always on or just around the corner 😅.
You can find in-depth answers to your questions on B2B SaaS Reviews, especially in
and .@ I love how you’re always on the cutting edge. Can’t wait to listen to it live 😃
Oooh, @Rachel Ward check out Lauren’s message.
I agree with everyone else here. I’d also add I feel like complexity and industry matter. I’ve seen per-piece rates from $500-$3,000.
@Audrey Zigmond Congrats on landing a few contracts. I agree with @Alexie Glover. It really depends. I think the biggest factor is whether you're working with the client directly or whether you're working through an agency. I'll send you a DM.
So much work!
What’s everyone working on this week <!channel>?
Morning! Curious to know how everyone is socializing their Advocacy sign up page. We just launched ours and are including in QBR’s + will be redirecting those that rank high on our CSAT survey. Just curious to know how else you might be promoting it!
Great session, thanks for sharing! 🙌
@Shannon Howard @Joel Primack @Valeria Gomez Thursday at 12 or 2 PM EST?
i could do that
Separate. Totally forgot, my head’s in this report. Anyone want to try for the 6th? At 12 or 2 PM EST
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) will this be a Friday coffee or should we schedule something sep?
Hi everyone! Has anyone ever created a customer media kit that they’d be wiling to share?
Getting on with @Ciana Abdollahian
Ayeeee I think we know that dude. Finally had a chance to meet up again after 3 years.
Last time was at Bill Lee’s conference. Side note, for some reason Bill reminds me of the Marlboro man 😂
Always great collaborating with my brother from another mother @Ari Hoffman
Hey all, @Audrey Zigmond is working on a cool blog post around experience with different platforms in the community and customer marketing space. Would anyone be open to talking to her about:
1. Higher Logic
2. SlapFive
3. Salesforce Community Cloud
4. inSided
She has people for other platforms right now. @Kristine Kukich I thought you might want to talk about Insided.
Where are all of my creative review campaign people at??
I'm brainstorming some campaign ideas for reviews on products that include personalization features. Looking for some fun campaign ideas to entice advanced users to share their insight with GPI. Thinking there's some options for fun plays on "you're personally invited." It's a global customer base, but I'm also thinking a spring-themed campaign, because those are always so cute. Deadline we're trying to meet is end of April. Appreciate any fun ideas this great community has to share!
Working on a few things:
1. New calendar tool; You do not have to do anything unless you want to. will now have the option to subscribe to get emails about each week’s call, meaning a new invitation for each call added. You’ll be able to see all of the details of the calls coming up.
2. Community & Customer Marketing under one department call - 👍 if you want to be notified about it this call when it’s scheduled.
3. Lifecycle discussion call. ❤️ if you want to be notified or you are interested, I’ve had a few people reach out about it.
4. I’m working on getting everything under one room, feel free to join, I can take your content from here and make it into a post there if you’d like. A few others have joined and are allowing me to do that. I will ask before I do it for anyone.
5. Ciana Abdollahian talks about getting executive advocates tomorrow.
6. Considering doing pages like this and having a paid subscription for the community at some point. I’d love comments & feedback.
Question for this amazing group! Do community and customer marketing are part of the same team at your company? If so, what are some of the “advantages” to have both functions under the same roof? Thank you!
New member @Maria Braune shared this with me: (her new program) Morning! I wanted to share with you that we finally have our advocacy page live -
We will also have this page appear when a client has selected either a 9 or 10 when completing the CSAT question about how likely they are to refer us.
Anyone have the link for the call with CMAlliance?
we did it as like a hold slide during a break and got a few reviews but nothing like when we have a g2 booth at in person event
Question for the group -- I'm working on a best practices blog, has anyone done review generation as part of a virtual event?
Kaily has a doc have you looked at that?
Does anyone have questions they usually ask as part of a customer story interview? Open to suggestions.
Also, any best practices for getting insight from the CSM/AE on the account. I feel like the last few I've done, they were like, "This would be great." And the customer was like, "No, that's not a thing."
👋 Hey All - eventually I'll be working with our Customer Success Education team to develop a solid Customer Journey Map, as we haven't had a solid one created yet (just customer playbooks). Does anyone have any pointers, tips, templates?
Salesforce and a spreadsheet 🫠
Hey there! For anyone running rewards programs, what tech are you using to manage that/provide the points to your advocates? Ty in advance!
Hey everyone--I am very, very new to Marketo. Can someone show me how to add a new email to an existing campaign and send it? It looks like the only way to send out a new email is to create a new campaign every time...that can't be right, can it?
You and me both @Alison Bukowski 😂
How is it QBR week already? What is going on?!!
Hi everyone! 👋 We have Talk Advocacy To Me starting in 45 minutes with Jenni Adair! If you've been impacted by layoffs, or are looking for a new role, this is one is going to be super valuable.
anyone have the link for cianas call?
I’ll check.
Is anyone at the CABs event? The chat is disabled for me, but it sounds like it's not for everyone?
So many events today:
Full Funnel Summit
CABs by Insight
Podfest
Ciana Abdollahian Referencing for Impact
I'll be at X Con too. Let's have a coffee 🙂 (no LV for me)
I just sent a mass message about the survey/poll. Please forgive me for being so impersonal. 😬
I’m excited to see what you conjure up.
I am going to go in depths of Asana and Google to see what we can make happen. Try to make some magic that us marketers need to do. 😉
Thank you all!
I was just taking a break and washing dishes, when I remembered a conversation from the Base Top100 happy hour call today.
One customer marketer mentioned she asks favors of her customers and another responded with the perspective that she offers opportunities and not favors, to which @Ari Hoffman jumped in and said that it was a bit of both. And I definitely agree with Ari.
But it got me thinking, why have we shied away from "Favors" so much. Every person is different, but I personally am much more motivated to do someone I like a favor and will prioritize that over "taking advantage of an opportunity."
Im much more motivated by helping people than doing something that helps my career.
Wondering what others thing on the topic.
We're relaunching our advocacy program and I thought it might be a good idea as part of the relaunch to ask customers what they are looking for in an advocacy program (e.g. what motivates them to participate/stay engaged). Has anyone done this and if so, what did you ask?
We are on for Friday call
<!channel>Ah, very cool. Looking forward to it.
Yes, April 1st (ish)
Love it! Are you going to post results or no?
It’s up to 100 responses now @Liz Richardson
This is cool. Thanks for sharing, Mary!
A fellow CMA’er is working on a big upcoming event and her teams like to leave everything to the last minute (when it comes to planning), any suggestions for her?
Happy Friday!! 🎉
A CMA-like question (but not really, kinda?) - I am partnering with our prospect-facing DG team to put together an internal-facing calendar that shows prospect AND customers outbound activities. The cal would showcase the event/activity + resources to promote that activity.
Challenges:
• We do not have a intranet. Basic Google drive and calendar use across the company
• Marketing manages all of our schedule in Asana (which the rest of the org doesn't have access to) What is efficient for the marketing team that won't create duplicate tasks?
• Our content is managed on Guru, not the best solution
• Sales and CS want to filter by segment (not see EVERYTHING that applies to their accounts)
From an enablement perspective - how do you showcase all your marketing activity across the organization?
<!channel> Congrats to @Eran Livneh and @Rachel Ward what an awesome call about ABM in Customer Marketing. The chat was out of control, so many people talking to each other. We also learned how to easily save chats from zoom calls (click the … under the chat, click save chat).
@Marie Elliott joins tomorrow at 2PM EST to talk about ABM as well (in CMA) and promises it will be completely different!
If anyone wants to continue chatting, we can do so in this thread or start another with your question. @Asha May @Rebecca Grossman @Leslie Barrett @Marie Elliott @Kristine Kukich @Alyse Chiariello @Sarah Koval
I think I need to hire a coach that can keep me on track… anyone know of someone they like?
Hey all - we are seeing a real need to create a community for customers where they can learn from one another in their respective industries. The problem I'm facing is trying to figure out the best way to cultivate this community given we are in B2B professional services and our clients are mainly VPs & C-Level Execs. My first thought is hosting a monthly or bi monthly 30. minute virtual peer group where we can bring clients together in similar industries to discuss a given topic/pain point. What else could we do?
I had a leadership call yesterday and was asked about my "big rocks" going into Q2. This is what I shared:
1. Deciding what the next phase of our Lighthouse program looks like - o*ur Lighthouse program consists of executives from our most strategic customers. We offer 1. quarterly roundtables where they discuss their approaches to common industry challenges (looking to do an in person later in the year) 2. quarterly check-in (each member has a check-in with their exec sponsor from our side). We lost our internal sponsorship for the program (both execs who were championing this are gone) . My goal is to get realignment with the rest of the exec team, new sponsorship, and goals for the program for rest of year.
2. *Re-launch our reference program - w*e are a case study on how hypergrowth can de-rail your reference program. We almost quadrupled the amount of AEs we had in less than 2 yrs . We're going back to basics educating AEs on how to use customer proof throughout the Sales cycle, how to request a reference, how to nominate a reference and the importance of responding to reference requests and reference profile update prompts. I created this guide to help with the enablement (I hope none of our competitors are in here 😂). We also have decided we are combining our program with a similar program our Developer Relations team runs so now we will have 4 people managing our advocacy program which is a huge win! In parallel, we are finding our AE relationships with certain customers don't exist so this makes a peer to peer reference model in RefEdge impossible. Some of our best references are being overused by Sales (big shocker) and because we're always fighting fires with Sales reference requests (my teammate fielded 120 sales requests.... and we handle a huge amount of marketing request too!). My goal is to get leadership to understand why we need to move our best references under our ownership and go to a managed model where we only support opportunities of a certain size in a late sales stage and shift the focus to delivering value to those in our advocacy program with the help of the DevRel team!
3. *Customer Experience at RSA - this is our first time creating a customer experience at an event so we doing everything to make sure it's a big success. Our team's goals will be to drive GPI reviews and advocacy program sign-ups but it will be good just to meet customer IRL!
4. - this was our most successful piece of content last year so we'll be creating a 2023 version. We used aggregate customer data (through analytics and a customer survey) to show the ROI/value you would expect if you implemented our solution. We gathered Sales feedback on the previous version so we know what our areas of opportunity are for this year. Our goal is get this out by start of Q3 to help with end of year deals!
I'm curious to hear what are your big projects you're tackling in the next few months and if any of us can help each other, even better!!
@Rachel Ward Thank you so much! I’m excited to join today. I’ll look to book a virtual coffee as well 🙂
@Rachel Ward do you record these? I am in meetings all day today 😭 but would love to listen later!
VocalVideo has been great for us for quick hit customer videos. Using TestimonialHero for more professional ones. Here's the landscape for reference - has probably grown quite a bit since we did this 9 months ago.
the team at Laudable is super easy to work with. Wouldn't recommend Testimonial Hero - very expensive & very pushy team. We're evaluating other video vendors for our next on-sites
@Sarah Koval still uses both. ^
I used Laudable in the past. And also Testimonial Hero.
great feedback from everyone! You have helped me tremendously and I appreciate it 🙌
We have Vocal Video but are excited to use SlapFive for it in the future. Everything in one place - not a fan of disparate systems, personally.
Hi - I'm looking for examples of content (blogs/webinars) that feature customers as thought leaders in your industry - not talking about the product at all - not case studies - but rather giving their tips, ideas, best practices etc that are relevant to your target audience and customers. If you do this now, can you please share links to examples? Thank you!
^^ they pretty much do everything for us, we just send them the customer information. pretty nice since we're mostly hands off
Oh cool. I can’t remember who asked either.
I can't remember who asked which Agency helps my previous company manage the Gartner Peer Insights reviews, but @Sarah Koval was kind enough to send me their name this AM
Spotlight Analyst Relations
Results so far in the poll: 21 Influitive, 12 Refedge, 5 Slapfive, 3 Orca, 3 Base, 2 UserEvidence, so share the poll and help us see who has the happiest customers.
24 new members this week, ty everyone. 🙂 9 more and we hit 250!
TY @Kevin Lau for joining!! What a great call.
<!channel> can you hop on this post and share your love for our amazing Leslie?
I think I may have found it in the #random thread. Thanks though!
Usually, yes. I’ll check to see if I can find this, I recently changed systems.
Hi @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) - when you host these calls, do you post the recordings anywhere? If not, can you share this one?
@Melissa DiBernardo asked this in CMAlliance but hasnt gotten a great answer, can anyone share?
“Hiya! Does anyone have a sample crisis communications plan they would be willing to share?”
I'm asking a customer to do a onsite video testimonial, and was curious if anyone has a good email template for this type of ask? I know this can be a big thing for a customer to commit to, so I want to make sure the email is 💯
CMA+ starting in a few minutes - hope you can join us.
Hi! Me again 🙂
My colleague (and badass partner in sales) @Josh Ruffner is building a product to manage references. He'd love it if he could meet with a few customer marketers to share the product's current capabilities and get your feedback/hear your questions about capabilities.
Please comment if you're willing to give Josh a few moments of your time, I know he (and I) would really appreciate it!
👋 Hey expansion and customer lifecycle peeps!
I'm getting excited about this month's expansion meetup with @Eran Livneh who will be walking us through best practices on leveraging ABM campaigns for customer expansion.
This is hot 🔥 topic lately, so if you've been itching to learn more about the magic of ABM + customer marketing, be sure to tune in 📻 next Thursday, March 23rd:
Curious...what do y'all do with a case study when a customer churns? Do you proactively take it off your website? I've actually never come across this situation before.
Anyone interested in doing chat AMAs in Slack once in awhile?
<!channel> Welcome to March 13th (it’s a new week).
I’ve got some plans to pick up activity here today.
One struggle I’m having is getting people to join bc they say they are already in MY slack (they are in the other one).
So, it’d be great if you could share the new Slack on LinkedIn - link is
Blog for CMAweekly - I’ll curate your content for you!
Also!! is officially on Tribe/Bettermode. I’m not launching a new/on-site community. I would like to look at it as more of a place for us to blog.
If you want to post content, I’ll be happy to share it. I can also curate some of your content for you from the community and zoom calls. Just lmk. I’m thinking of you @Shannon Howard @Alexie Glover @Kristine Kukich @Daniel Palay @Ciana Abdollahian @Rachel Ward @Lauren Stefano @Amanda Peacock and anyone else. (sorry if I missed your name).
Finally, I want to show vendors (@Andru Creighton @Rob Ayre @Allison Hughes @Kaily Baskett) how satisfied users are with the products on the market so PLEASE take this very quick, 3 question, 20 second survey and help us all share our thoughts.
PS: Kevin Lau joins us this Friday to talk about CMA Frameworks and his new course.
What did you decide?
Keeps me on my toes @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly). 😉
Hey everyone! I'm trying to wrap my head around ABM strategies for customer expansion (cross-sell). I came across a couple of LinkedIn posts but I'd appreciate any resources/videos that explain this. If you already have ABM as one of your expansion channel, I'd love to chat 1:1 :)
PS: We use 6sense. Do we have CMA/ABM folks from 6sense in the community?
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) We didn't get to talk about it! Too many topics at our meetup and we all hadn't see each other in awhile. I personally think we'll see reference program management change in the coming years. If I were to build a platform, I would take a community-based consulting type approach similar to a Maven where you create a profile on what you'd be willing/able to talk to based on your experience. Prospects can go in, search on criteria, get match results and the customers can accept/decline the requests. Customers get rewarded for completing calls. Companies would still have the visibility with less hassle. Customer advocacy teams could then shift their time and focus on the advocate experience. The only thing people would have to get over is having less control over the reference process but in my mind we don't have as much control anymore anyways. Most reference conversations today are happening in communities.
I have seen 2 new vendors pop up in this space in the last few weeks (ReferStack and Deeto). I haven't done a deep dive on how they are different from the current vendors yet. I don't know about the other vendors but RefEdge is not innovating (in my opinion). I feel like most of their updates are patches fixing things that break. Can RefEdge be successful for companies? Yes. Does it take an insane amount of time and effort? Yes.
<!channel> Please answer!!
I’ve started a very short 3 question 30-sec survey: Are you satisfied with your main CMA solution?
AND, we are starting our weekly call in 7 minutes with Cece Lee from Enable Us who is going to share exactly how she built great relationships with Customer Success for 15 mins or so, then We WILL TALK!!
Hey all! We recently launched our client only newsletter and we are presenting overall marketing strategy to our sales team tomorrow. Trying to think through if this newsletter is something we should share with them/how they would leverage. My first thought is that they could forward to a prospect with a relevant note based on a convo they were having?
Four days with very little food. I am improving but what a rough week. I fully plan on tomorrow’s call. See you then.
I’m good for that day and the idea!!
Hey! Looking at bumping the frequency of expansion/lifecycle meetups to bi-weekly. Also noticing that creates a meeting on Apr 6, which is our spring break here in Atlanta... is that first week of april popular spring break for all? I am looking at bringing on an old colleague who is head of revops/cma to chat about different scoring and attribution models for customer expansion... but don't want that to be a date many are absent.
Thanks for the feedback.
I hope he’s doing better and you and the rest of the fam are staying well too!!!
Didn’t you tell them not to eat yellow snow?
I just had a stomach bug a couple weeks ago.
Now I just have yellow snow outside and it’s taking down the whole family
Happy International women's day everyone!
We're seeing it on the West Coast too. The neighbor kids have been in and out for the last month with something a little different every time.
Is it just me, or do people seem to be back to back sick? The kids at the college have been sick with different things, I kid you not, for the last month. Josh just came home yesterday hacking up a lung.
Hey all, my son brought home a yucky stomach bug so I won’t be around today.
Hi everyone - Does anyone have any compensation resources for customer marketing roles in the US? I want to make sure an offer is fair and current. I've been working abroad for the past 3 years, so I'm a bit out of touch with CM salaries in tech. Thanks in advance! 💰
does anyone have any siteable quotes about the cost to acquire a net new customer vs retaining an existing one? some of the quotes say 5x as much for net new and others say 25x ... is there a standard we're all using?
Yeah just send an eGift manually via Sendoso after the fill out the survey. Just ask for their email address as a question in the survey. 👍
I usually follow up with the live link and a share of a few places it's being promoted (if on social we tag them).
I do also send a thank you gift. If you don't have a platform, but do have some budget you could send cupcakes or macarons. Some countries that's harder for.
If not already, invite them into your advocacy program.
With customer stories who are implementing new features during their interview or building onto what they're already doing I set a reminder to reach out to see how it's going in whatever time frame it's estimated to be and at that point if it's going well will see if we can update their current story, add on a video testimonial... something to build on what they're already doing.
Additionally, if any upcoming opportunities for panels, podcasts, event speaker, etc. are coming up soon I might pull a piece of the story that stood out and makes them a good fit for the opportunity to highlight and then ask if they're interested in further participation.
Was this what you're looking for?
I feel like @Rachel Ward, @Shannon Howard or @ could answer this.
Thank you, that's great feedback. I take no credit on the podcast itself, that's all my marketing team. We have a great handoff between podcast interview to case study for our customers though that has been working really well.
@Rachel Ward I listened to the podcast episode. I love the concept and structure! I think it's a really cool blend of case study and "normal" podcast episode that is educational and helpful for a wider audience.
Call is open
I wonder how old humor is.
Hi Everyone! Coming in hot this Friday afternoon to let y’all know I’ll be chatting with Callie Rojewski from Menlo on LinkedIn this coming Tuesday. 15 minutes of Callie sharing how she drove some major impact with her CAB. If CAB is on your priorities list, definitely come join us:
Happy Fri-yay everyone. Someone shared a while back a deck on how they positioned their team for adding headcount, I have put something together but would love if anyone has anything they've done to see if I am not including something I should consider.
Thank you all!
Case studies call with Case Study Buddy Joel Klettke (@Joel Klettke) now
Has anyone here worked with a career coach? I'd love to connect with one and am looking for recommendations.
Congratulations to those recognized on the CMA Ones to Watch list!!!
Thanks everyone for throwing Orca into the conversation. @Jennifer Schmitz - ill shoot you a LinkedIn request or shoot me an email (
), I promise not to be that annoying sales guy! (Be safe in the snow that is headed your way ❄️)@Jessica Noland What are the common formats that your coworkers are actually looking for?
@Evan Huck I studied linguistics at university so, yes, this conversation is fascinating to me! Love the cat analogy too!
@Rachel Ward Thanks for sharing your experience with podcasts. I'd love to check yours out. Would you mind providing a link? Why do you think podcasts perform better than videos? (My guess is that people have more time and brain space when they're listening to a podcast because they're out walking the dog, etc.)
Community chat
There's a lot of buzz happening today with the Top100 being announced. Congratulations to all those who made the list! Just a reminder for any who participated in the process to take notes on your experience. If you are running an awards program or thinking of launching one in the future, make sure to emulate what you found easy, intuitive, and edit out the steps that felt clunky!
That is awesome to hear @Rachel Ward - @Emily Amos and @Joel Klettke would probably be interested in that feedback.
Listening to Friday's call now and I use podcasts in conjunction with case studies! It's working REALLY well to get multiple view points for the story.
The ELT/Senior leadership likes to do the podcast, while stories are usually done with those using the product day to day which gives a true "story told"
Allows for snippets and a bit more engagement on the story with cross linking back and forth, I am finding.
Im finding it perform better than videos in a lot of ways.
Yes, I love that. I’ve never found email banners to be very helpful for clicks. Sometimes they help with driving the message but nothing seems to do better than a short message with a clear CTA.
The content was hot and played a hug part in driving reg. Our topic was focused on accessibility and we brought in 3 internal SME's on the subject. We also played around with our messaging. Removing the email banner from the initial invite and getting straight to the point.
+1 @Evan Huck - the term "case studies" gets used a lot by my coworkers in marketing + sales - I always have to follow up and ask what they're actually looking for. (Spoiler: they rarely need an actual full-fledged case study.) 😂
<!channel> what are you working on this week?
I love that explanation @Evan Huck - you just won comment of the week right there.
@Emily Amos Great question. Case studies can mean case studies but I think "case studies" (especially when used by non-marketing people) can also be used as a catch-all categorical term to broadly refer to any type of customer proof.
So if a sales leader says, "We need more case studies!" - a customer marketer shouldn't necessarily interpret that literally (ie we need the traditional case study that you think of) - I would interpret that as a broader need for customer evidence, social proof, success stories. Digging into why they need those stories might uncover an even more specific customer proof need - e..g competitive evidence, ROI/performance impact data, etc.
Anyway this is why I love your report, it's so interesting!
It almost seems "case studies" are indeed one format/species of asset type in the broader family of assets also called "case studies"
In the animal kingdom - a lion and a panther are both species in the family panther. So panther could refer to the species panther or the collective family of large cats called panther.
So maybe academically interesting, but what's the practical implication? Double click when leadership/sales says "we need more case studies." B/c you could go launch into an epic 5 month slog and tens of thousands of $ to produce 2 case studies when the problem might have been "we need some proof points across 16 different industries and we only have stories in 4 of them now"
Thanks for having me on Friday's CMA Weekly call @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly). It was great to be able to chat with a variety of customer marketing practitioners about common case study challenges. Here's the
in case anyone is interested, and here's the that I referenced.@Evan Huck What term do you tend to use when talking about case studies?
That's great @Kyle Tansley!!
@Joel Klettke I agree 100%. It's so important to prime the pump for metrics BEFORE the interview with the customer. Most metrics are impossible to come up with off the top of your head. They require a bit of digging and analysis.
hi all -- friendly reminder -- International Women's Day is March 8th! You still have time to do something fun for your female customers to celebrate them. This year I'm sending little succulent planters from a woman owned business and then getting headshot/quotes from our female customers around how we all grow stronger together as women supporting women. (one of our core values at Zylo is Grow Stronger Together so thought it was a good tie in) will share those images/their quotes as well as the same from our employees on IWD. what does everyone else have planned?
Woot Woot!! That’s awesome. What was one of the biggest factors to your success with the event?
As I build out the customer marketing function at my company, I am having trouble identifying quick wins that I can leverage (while also building out long term plans). I'd love to know what type of quick "wins" you've employed that have secured trust/confidence from leadership. I think the biggest issue I am having is that I'm in B2B professional services - our company builds bespoke digital products based on company needs. So we aren't quite staff aug but we aren't consultancy - a bit of both.
@Rachel Ward - yea would love to, thanks! is there an invite?
I know, right? Free is awesome!!
Great resource! And free!
@Evan Huck would you like to chat expansion and upsell soon on one of the expansion meetups I host each month?
Please share, comment, etc @Liz Richardson And I’ll answer this in a bit. I have a lot to share on it.
Sorry for back to back posts, folks. Don’t mean to be spammy.
I’m looking to collect some anecdotal evidence around what customer marketers are experiencing to use as discussion points in a chat we’ll be hosting with fractional CMO, Kevin Miller. All references to any responses will be shared anonymously.
I’ve reached out to some people directly, but if you’d like to PM me your response to any or all of the below questions, I’ll be collecting the thoughts of practitioners in our space around this. Would love to have a diverse perspective of opinions/thoughts.
• Do you think CMA roles are currently being cut more than other roles? If so, why?
• Are there a lot of organizations looking to build out customer marketing and advocacy roles right now that you are seeing?
• When you are interviewing for roles, what are the main objectives leadership is hoping to achieve with their CMA practice?
• In your opinion, what, if anything, should CMA professionals be doing to proactively retain their funding and programs?
TY @Heather Elliott
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) this was a great read!
Chatting with Maria Sztarovics from Wings4U on LinkedIn in less than 20 minutes (thanks for including in your newsletter, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly)!). We’ll be chatting on what it really takes to have a truly global advocacy program and the value that being global brings. Be sure to jump in if this is a subject of interest for your advocacy programs:
Hey all! This Friday (Feb 17), I'll be facilitating the weekly call.
We're going to dive into some of the common challenges marketers face when producing case studies—and I'll be sharing some of the interesting trends and insights from our
.So that this call can be as valuable as possible, I'd love to know which topics you're most interested in discussing:
🐵 How can you get more meaningful metrics?
🦊 How do you incentivize your sales folks to identify case study participants?
🐶 What case study formats should you try in 2023?
🐷 How will your case study production change if a recession hits?
🐱 How do ensure the customer will approve the case study?
🤯 Something else? Let me know!
Vote by replying with the emojis of topics you want to discuss.
Looking forward to chatting with you all on Friday!
Favorite Superbowl commercial?
Mine was the Electric Slide
@Jeanne Talbot Fall!
When will the next levels start to be offered?
to the slides I shared today if anyone would like to take a look. Thanks for letting me share about our program!
We’re on!!
Aw ty!
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I just subscribed and this is the first newsletter I read. Wow! Can't wait for the next one!
Yes, same. By the second week in April, I will have learnings for sure.
Happy to join one. If it would be helpful, maybe we could book it the first or second week of April, so I can share learnings.
Anyone want to have another CABs call?
@Tracy Carson @Robin Raulf-Sager @Kayleigh Bateman @Lisette Prudencio would any of you want to have another CABs call?
could use some help with verbiage/ideas -- a prospect has invited 5 people to a reference call with only 1 customer. i normally keep it at 2 prospects to 1 customer because i dont want it to feel like a presentation or like they're on the spot. any recos for how to approach with sales/prospect?
My team sits in the Product Marketing org. We got a new team lead in September and she doesn't know what to do with us... and refuses to accept any of the "managing up" that I've done to date to help her understand. She wrote a new charter for us with no input from me. She knows PMM and I've come to realize she wants us to be her PMMs on insights, not customer advocacy. Certainly not customer marketing. Which I guess insights is a part of what we do in advocacy but it's an entirely different lens and, tbh, I don't want to be a PMM. Maybe I'm looking at it all wrong though. Has anyone been in this position before? I feel super stuck and would love to brainstorm if anyone's been in this or a similar sticky spot.
How long do you wait for someone to join your zoom call?
Is it appropriate to jump off at 6 minutes?
Some times no topic is the best topic @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) as it takes on a group therapy feeling
Thanks everyone who joined today. Next week we are going to have @Emily Smith from ServiceTitan share her expertise in References. Based on the input she’s shared so far on our calls, I’m excited to hear what she has to share with us.
Have a great weekend and thanks for listening to my ruminations on these calls - please bring topics you’d like to discuss in the future (and I’ll be quiet more) 🙂
Today’s call is still on in 11 mins 🙂 see you then.
TY @Shannon Howard
That's exactly it!! Thanks Shannon
Also a disclaimer that I can only ever join the 2nd half of the calls due to a standing team meeting so don't plan around me
I'm unavailable this Friday and next but happy to do any week after that
Which Friday @Jan Young & @Val Geisler
@Jan Young I'm in on that one! I have a lot of thoughts on surveys and JTBD.
@Alexie Glover I appreciate that! Really just trying to get a sense for how this set of activities might evolve into multiple roles over time.
Does anyone have a deck they can share on how advocate identification? Would like to do a little roadshow with Sales & CS on how to identify and recommend advocates, as well as different types of advocacy activities (I have that part done).
- You might find these two articles ( & ) helpful.
- Besides NPS: Successful onboarding completion, positive CSAT rating, renewal, post-expansion, CS recommendations, after hitting milestones
- Depends. If someone already gave a review, you might follow up 6 months to 1 year later to have them update it. (@Katlin Hess has great advice on this). If they left a review on one site, you could have them leave a review on another site. @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) do you still have that Google Slide we all collaborated on last year about when to gather reviews &
Hey everyone 👋
- How do y'all drive new reviews on G2, Capterra, and the likes throughout the year? Any specific campaign that worked really well?
- Other than NPS, what can be considered as good triggers/milestones to ask for reviews?
- Are you consciously excluding customers who were i) reached out already but didn't respond and ii) already gave reviews Thanks a lot!
I don’t have anything immediate but I’ll look around when I get back on.
Hivemind! There has been so much noise online about the justification for maintaining marketing programs during an economic downturn ... and I've goofed and not saved any of it for when I would need it! Does anyone have a particularly awesome article/linkedin post/set of stats/etc. that demonstrate the benefits of investing in marketing (and customer marketing) during these difficult times?
Separate, but related, question on CABs. For those of you who have held an in person CAB in the last year, what attendance rate are you seeing? I.e. if you have 30 CAB members, are 15 showing up?
Hi y'all! Megan at Zoom here. I'm rushing to plan an in-person CAB meeting late March. One of the foreseeable challenges is how to actually get CAB members to attend in person 🙂. Although we are offering to cover the travel costs for our CAB members, we know that budgets are constrained across the board, we're still asking for their time, and some will need to cover their own way due to compliance reasons.
Would you be willing to share an example of invites you've sent to your CAB events? I'm curious about the language others use to get closer to that internal approval and doesn't look like a boondoggle event
Job call is on now!!
We are looking at finally launching a customer newsletter - does anyone have any documentation or guidelines they use for WHAT goes in the newsletter? (I'm trying to figure out how to not just say "this is what goes in here" but also say "this shouldn't go here, but instead it should be... on the website, in our community, etc.")
TY for sharing @Hope Mascott I’ll try to keep this info somewhere.
@Sarah Koval - I also need an on-site video option for a customer in Florida and a customer in California. I can discuss what I found if you want to DM me. There's some online options too-
and and several others.Hi everyone, I missed yesterday's call on communities but wanted to know 1) if the call will be shared 2) if anyone has specific experience building out a community for professional services (vs a software or product). The common thread for our customers would be the industry they are in and they are all higher level execs. When building a community for this group, what should I keep in mind? Any frameworks you use? I'm not a member of CHIEF, but from what I can tell on the landing page - I'm thinking we'd do something similar.
Happy to chat if there's interest 🙂
You can see some of our work here:
which I found out shortly afterwards.
yeah @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) i was forgetting a 1 when i remembered that price...
That said, in full transparency:
1. Great onsite video is generally pricier (between coordination and planning, filming, editing, managing revisions and approvals, etc.)
2. Our approach is quite strategic, and we're often producing written collateral alongside the video, which means (for example) we do try collaborate with our client to get a thorough brief and go in prepared, and usually conduct a pre-interview with the customer (a short one) to map out the story and minimize the amount of time their butt is in a seat day-of.
Thanks, @Val Geisler!
We sure do
@Joel Klettke ya'll do onsite video?
Happy Community Manager Appreciation Day!!! Especially to you @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) but also to all of the other Community Managers in here 🙂 we're lucky to have you!!
BTW, I just read today’s newsletter AND I loved it!!! But you knew I would
I should share my budgeting spreadsheet
$2500
how much do you budget per quarter on it?
I have a newsletter episode on it
I tier everything out. Instead of paying them out when it’s published. Pay them out after the customer agrees to the case study. Since case studies take so long they don’t stay motivated. $500 for Tier 1. Also joining their weekly meetings, shout outs at All hands, 1:1 comms, and celebrating them in that dedicated slack channel has worked for me!
I tried that and it worked for a bit, but faded for me quickly. The draw dropped. I would love to know how you keep them motivated with it. How much do you offer and how much do you budget per quarter for it? Also how to do you keep it consistently top of mind for them if it’ starts to lose its momentum?
I had to switch to actually working with their leadership to get it incorporated as part of their MBOs to have lasting effects, but I know not every company (especially with CSMs) have MBOs, so would love to know know more about how you got the cash offer to actually stick
Cash 😎
what do you do to motivate CSMs to take the time to fill all that out with their busy schedules?
Hey all here’s the call calendar 🙂 LET ME KNOW what you think
We use Slack for that. I created a channel, pinned a template, and, of course, have a spiff that goes out to them when the story gets published. The reason why I think this works is because as the story moves through the journey, you are able to update the Slack channel and celebrate the CSM’s that are collecting the spiff. What this does in my opinion is keeps this process top of mind and creates FOMO for the other CSM’s.
does anyone have a sample form/landing page/instructions you use for enabling internal teams to submit recommended customer stories? basically we have customers that are successful and our CS team knows about them but the process of getting those to the next step is broken
Oh, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) that's great!
@Alexie Glover great point! May the odds be ever in all of our favor!
I’m sure its already been said somewhere but worth saying again. A huge SHOUTOUT to @Ari Hoffman and team. for putting together a great event this week. Thanks for all of your efforts to bring the community together to learn from one another. Even this sales-guy (😲) came away from it with a thing or two! Enjoy the weekend, you earned it.
Good news - they added me 😄 so now there are 492!!
Oh man, I'm so annoyed I'm in the complete wrong timeone for all this Infuitive Live Happy Hour fun! 😞 Congratulations to all the winners and all the amazing speakers during the sessions, it's been super inspiring and hopefully next time I can attend and share all the great things we are doing with our program here at SAP Concur!
My faux paux of the day: Recording a call and hubby comes in, uses bathroom (there’s no door to the bathroom from our room) and he flushes!! Flushes!! Gah. Cant share that recording.
Then as Influitive Awards relaunches their call due to Zoom issues my son is in the bathroom peeing (I can’t see the toilet there is a doorway but no door) and the zoom starts with everyone off zoom - so 70+ people hear my kid peeing in the background
CONGRATULATIONS, @Kristine Kukich!!!! 🎉 Kristine and her team are winners of the Awesomeness in Customer Education Award as Vendor of the Year!
These are like people’s choice awards—folks are nominated, voted on, then chosen by a panel of judges. They didn’t only win Vendor of the Year, but they were finalists for Community of the Year and Voice of the Year as well.
As many of you know, one of the reasons I started this slack is because people wanted a non vendor owned community.
I started a new channel today for non-vendors.
Please let me know if you want an invite to the channel (PS: I love my vendors and I’m so glad you are here, please don’t be offended).
Voting for Top100CMA is open!
May the odds be ever in your favor 🤞
Sorry wild week for us and not able to join today, but here are some ideas.
• Creating partnerships with customer success, customer solutions, and renewals.
• What reports or dashboards do y'all use to demonstrate value to other departments.
Influitive Live Chat (here) <!channel>
I’ll have a calendar for this TODAY! I’ve been trying to find the best tool to make these calls easy to share/invite/etc.
Top of mind for some of our clients is maintaining customer data. So when clients move from company A to company B.
I don't know if that's a topic in its own right but it is a challenge!
Good morning Mary!
Morning <!channel> - I’m trying to schedule some topic calls, what’s on your mind to discuss?
I will get them scheduled today.
The only customer marketer that I know and is not in the channel is Alexis Kalmar. I messaged her to let her know about it. I do know many London-based marketers/communicators as well as a few folks in customer success.
Yes, I know a couple folks in customer marketing and customer success.
I wish we knew who nominated us!
This "awards season" is a good reminder for all the CMA-ers running their own awards programs! Take note of your experience 😮💨
Same, Shannon! I wrote half my nomination info yesterday and I am struggling to get it done before next week.
Mary did you not get a nomination email?
This experience is reminding me I want a 1-2 month application process. I’m drowning in work right now with 2 new VPs, company kickoff in 2 weeks, and being able to pick up my programs when the year started. Even answering 3 questions thoughtfully is a lot right now.
im a huge fan of iterable's "customer marketing masters" page, their customer stories page is basic, but the highlight of their advocates is 💯
Happy to join!
GPI had over 500 attendees on their vendor webinar today. Would love to know what the behind the scenes looks like to get that level of attendance! 👀
Gah… LinkedIn restricted my account
They featured a comment I made on their news article and now that I am getting a bunch of profile views so I’ve been restricted 4x in the last 3 days 😞
BTW, @Leslie Barrett and @Kevin Lau I think you have both done the #brand30 campaign with Andrew Mewborn how do you like the direction he offers in the course?
Does he suggest topics to talk about or anything?
Hello all,
Looks like LinkedIn has a cool new feature to add “featured customers”. Does anyone have experience with this feature?
I’m sorry, Ari, the stupid thing isn’t working 😞
darn, I had an empty day today too
I didn’t have the invite or else I would have been there
We had a great call today for CMA weekly, several members showed up even though they couldn’t find the invite on their google calendar.
I’ll be working on finding a better tool for the invitation system. Thanks for hanging in there everyone.
We talked about Reference programs, getting buy in, choosing a tool, building a community, and change management.
I’m so pumped for what 2023 will bring.
Thanks again everyone 🙂
Hi! @Alexie Glover 100% agree. I definitely shared some of my "concerns" with the role and the current needs vs. future needs. I made a lot of suggestions on where to focus and the concerns of how the role is being looked at today vs. the true opportunity in having a true customer marketer vs. a content marketing manager.
@Kyle Tansley LOVE that title, much better than the two I suggested. Hence why I came to the community. 😄 And thanks @Kristen Kaighn too
These are great ideas!
Side note @Kyle Tansley, I agree! And their CMO is awesome, he was my old CMO. (Except for the writing part. I am a short form gal, I prefer to leave the long form stuff to my writers and just put together the briefs 🙃)
for whoever can attend <!channel>
I'd be happy to chat! I recently finished up a certificate program in brand management and love this topic. 🙌
I am!
Plus one to @Kyle Tansley I had someone on my team at Hopin that was a Customer Story Marketing Manager, especially helped with the delineation bc I had 2 other Customer Marketers on the team focused on Advocacy and Engagement
Who’s coming to the call today?
@Shannon Howard I’d be up for a chat! One of the things I’ve always done from a CMA pov is establish an Advocacy Portfolio Brand so that there is an architecture for branding and naming your customers, advocates, community, events, user groups, awards program, content, etc. Without structure some programs look super confusing and conflicting with other teams to your customers
woot woot, TY all
I like #1. Simple and meaningful. Positive and uplifting.
@Sarah Koval
A community needs a mission. It helps members get on board, work towards a goal, etc.
For the last year (almost), I’ve been building the community to make us all feel connected and supported. I have a 2 ideas for missions, I’d like feedback on.
- No Customer Marketer/Advocate works alone
- Building The Support Every Customer Marketer/Advocate Needs What are your thoughts?
LMK how I can help - I used to have to support 10+ MQs with Gartner
TY I will reach out.
Anyone dealing with Gartner Peer Insights? I’ve done it before but I cant remember if you need people with different industries, ARR, etc to do reviews… thoughts?
<!channel> Get back to work!!
I had an AMAZING break, but I missed our chats.
I wanted to welcome you all back to work.
We may be very small teams within our company BUT we are all here to work together.
Updates
I’ll probably send the newsletter tomorrow.
I’ll share the new topic calls schedule in the newsletter.
This Friday’s call, let’s tackle “How We’re Going to Hit 2023 OKRs” and whatever anyone wants to talk about.
As you go through the week, if you see something interesting for the newsletter, tag me somewhere, I appreciate the help.
And of course, WELCOME BACK!! 😄
Happy Holidays, Everyone!!!! So glad to have met you all this year.
We held our first ever Community holiday party today. It went well. Enjoyed getting a chance to talk with people and see faces. I did want to take this opportunity to say thank you to you all. As a novice in this field, it was very comforting to see validation for my plans and have you to toss around ideas with. May your holidays be merry and bright!🎄🎅🤶🍾
🌟 🎁 It’s Christmas time, thank you all for joining the community. 🎄 ☕
P.S.: Happy holidays to all who celebrate a different holiday, too!
I have a lot of ideas for next year.
• More topic calls (references, reviews, analyst reports, etc)
• Mentor programs (yes it’s really coming)
• Blog posts
• Point competitions 😄
What do you want the community to do together? <!channel>
I saw this on your LinkedIn, so cool! Love learning about nature/animals. 😄 Thanks for sharing
This has nothing to do with Customer Marketing but this crab habit (crabit?) is so interesting to me. Enjoy!
This was a fantastic and fun networking session. I made several great new contacts and really enjoyed talking with each person. Thanks, Mary!
Who’s coming to Holiday Networking today? It’s a new type of event, I think it’ll be fun <!channel>
Hey @Kristen Kaighn - thank you so much! Going to shoot you a DM.
It’s Bammies time!
can you share the recording? little guy is home sick again 😭😭 (when will it end?!?) so I can't make it
Oh I do! DM me
Oh my.
I have a question, I’m looking for resources or examples of community roadmaps early on in their maturity stage. Do you know anybody who is really good at this or strong examples out there? I'm trying to find a healthy balance of seeding content and launching programming without overwhelming members or just doing it to do it.
What’s the question specifically?
If you have 6 years or more experience in Customer Marketing & Advocacy, PM me, I’m working on something that might interest you.
@Shannon Howard any thoughts on this?
Per the request of our mighty leader @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) - adding my post from another 🙃 slack community here. I will also consolidate other folks answers into mine. Anonymous question: “Another question for y’all! As I build a case for building out a customer advocacy program, what revenue metrics would you include? Specifically trying to tie what we are proposing to revenue”
My response: Frequently requested from our customers…
• Opportunities Generated
• Opportunities Influenced (& amount of impact/influence/added)
• Win rates with and without Advocates
• Amount of reference calls “no longer needed or unused”
• Total Number of Available Advocates
• Total Number of Available References
• Most used Advocates
• Advocate requests by an account manager (CSM/user)
• Deal velocity of those with reference vs not.
• What stage references are being most used/impactful
• # of deals influenced per “time”
• Who is requesting from the AEs (and are their close rates better)
For existing business (customers)
• Renewal rate of deals with reference vs. without
• Deal size YoY of customers once they renew (that spoke with a reference)
• Who is requesting from CS (and are their win rates better than those not requesting)
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) I actually didn't!
Perfect. To help with future regs & events like this, take some of the findings/summaries and share back to customers who didn’t attend with a personalized note. Do a blog post and social post about some of the findings as well, and give them a place to indicate they want to be notified of future events.
Fell a little short. We wanted 20 reg and 10 to attend. We had 15 reg and 7 attend. BUT it was still a stellar event and all our customers that did attend said they found a lot of value in it!
Did you hit your goals @Anissa Alvarez
Did you find anyone to help with Looker @Alexie Glover?
I’m trying to build a bit of a report to share what CMA’ers are doing for 2023, what’s your focus?
So exciting thanks, Evan!
That is awesome @Evan Huck
@Val Geisler that infographic is a summary of this longer e-book (ungated pdf attached). The e-book has the stat sources hyperlinked - just a random collection of stats from around the web (probably should link them in the infographic as well - good call).
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) working on tuning UserEvidence (which is all customer-based research currently) to be able to do market research/industry trends type reports (e.g. 2023 State of Cybersecurity Report) in the next couple quarters!
Good question, Val. I do like this graphic. I believe he probably collected data and used UserEvidence, but maybe he can share more of the data.
@Evan Huck I want to share this infographic internally but I know the first question I'll get is "where are these stats from???" Do you have resources you used to pull these stats?
I wonder if @Leslie Barrett does
I do not. I could write something but it won’t have been tested.
We now have Giphy for this Slack (@Ari Hoffman)
We are on with Jan Young to talk about Customer Success & Customer Marketing - join us.
<!channel> let’s help @Val Geisler with her post above!!
SOS friends: our content team has decided that they are going to run an awards program for our customers "because it's ripe with 'best of' category SEO opportunities". I now have to make a pitch that we (customer advocacy) should run this. I need 2 things:
• any stats or big wins you've had from advocacy/CM running an awards program at your company
• the name of your company where advocacy runs awards
In a company without an advocacy team it might make sense for content to run awards but we're here so why aren't we doing it?!
That’s awesome @Anissa Alvarez - whens the event?
Just a few photos of yesterdays food, entertainment, and walking tour of lower manhattan
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) said I should post this here: MY FIRST CAB MEETING WAS A SUCCESS!!!!
Did you know?
The are out (the finalists have been named)!!!
As we all know, Customer Marketing as a profession is growing, and this year the Bammies had 140 submissions (so exciting). These are our colleagues and friends, I hope we can all support them on LinkedIn, here’s a post Ari shared 🙂 The more we recognize each other, the more we all win. =)
And their posts here:
Have you ever met someone in this industry who you just JAM with and could talk to forever? Well that is @Jan Young for me. We just did a little coffee chat for 30 minutes and I'm thinking we could spend a week together talking nonstop and still only scratch the surface! Please welcome my new BFF Jan to this community, she has so much to share with us!
For all of the wonderful CMA folks who are working out of spreadsheets: is anyone using
to share reports with other people in your org? Thinking specifically of exploring how to use the tool to share a content matrix with sales, enabling them to filter and access the information they need without changing/editing the primary report.yes, I’ve given your feedback already, from both of you. 🙂.
AND, since they recognize they need to close the gap, they’ve also chosen 10-13 people from our community to be on an advisory panel that’s meeting for the first time just after the new year. These are a wonderful set of humans, so hopefully, it will be more than just me giving recommendations.
<!channel> Question: Where do "expansion/retention" activities (such as internal customer case studies within a customer) fit in your org? Is it in Customer Success? Marketing? Elsewhere? And - if Marketing - where? Customer Marketing? ABM? DemandGen? And... where SHOULD these go? (really trying to figure out if it's a "customer marketing" activity or belongs elsewhere).
Me too @Ari Hoffman and @Val Geisler - I’ve tried to talk to them many times to no avail. It’s OK though, we have a lot of connecting and community going on here 😄
@Ari Hoffman you know I have a lot to say here.
Just finished an SKO virtual meeting and featured 3 customer speakers. Do you have any ideas what to send the customers as a thank you? Two are based in Europe and one in the US. Thanks!
Has anyone here done the CMA Leadership program? Interested to hear feedback if you have!
Writing an outline for a case study, trying to book customers for 2 webinars in Q1'23, gearing up for '23 planning sessions next week, packing for NYC tomorrow, and building a homelab in my room so I can learn about the technical side of my industry. Very much looking forward to time off around the holidays!!
getting back into writing by putting together a piece for our blog! dusting off some cobwebs.. feels good!
GM!! ☀️ Pushing to drive reg to an in-person customer breakfast. 66% of reg goal atm. The event is next Tuesday. 😅 Need to hit 80% by Friday or we might end up pivoting to virtual instead.
What are you working on this week <!channel> ??
i asked ChatGPT about customer marketing 👀👀👀
Anyone want to talk about customer marketing contracting on Thursday?
That’s really good to know. For me, as an advocate it depends on the charities listed and how much I like the swag options listed. But if it’s a charity for animals, I’m usually on board.
Great to hear. We are doing a corporate donation as well in lieu of a gift. For our top advocates, we're giving them $X to select a charity to donate to (via Sendoso).
<!channel> I promised to provide a summary of the Laura Ramos talk on customer-centric messaging from a couple of weeks ago. It’s finally done.
Before you hop in, it’s one of my first summaries to share, it’s probably longer than you’d like, and I do want feedback.
My comments are in parenthesis, there’s a lot of bold, etc, slide images. The whole thing was 7500 words from the webinar.
I’d say there are definite places that pertain to Lifecycle marketing, expansion, customer stories, our messaging, content, and ideas through out for our efforts.
Welcome!! I hope I get to see your session next week. I won’t be there, but hopefully I’ll see it somehow.
Question: Has anyone ever done a comparison of results/ROI for highly produced, branding customer story videos versus shorter, Q&A style customer/user talking videos? In my experience the first is more for brand awareness and the second is very useful for when prospects are making purchase decisions (so further down the adoption cycle). I'm looking for some examples that prove that out.
All thanks to you! Still figuring out how to use Slack but excited to be here.
Hey all: I’m planning monthly calls for several topics, can you comment and let me know which topics we should include?
Ideas: Reviews, References, Revenue, Community, Awards, CABs, Stories, Jobseekers, Consultants, Experts
I’d love to see your questions, shares, and ideas to help kick up some content in here 🙂
Hi everyone! Thank you @Anissa Alvarez for recommending me to this community!
OOhhh, don’t you start something now Leslie, you can’t take that back!!
Sendoso can sponsor as well!
Hello friends!
Hahaha. Love the pitch, @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly). We will discuss. 😉
Hi community! Excited to be here and learn together 🙌
Wow Mary does it again! Excited to see what's in store!
Small prizes, like stickers from @Liz Richardson Captivate’s advocacy store.
I love it!
I thought the weekly leaderboard would be fun. Someday I’ll get vendors to pony up a prize! 😉
ahh damn you gamification - so effective 🙂
LOL, if you click you should be able to see the board and emojis, you get points based on the emojis someone uses to respond to your post in #announcements and #welcome
@Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) how does it calculate the score? I need to make sure @Evan Huck does try and game the system 😉
^^ Leadboard for the community.
We’re at 50 members already - Fun Fact, several of the biggest contributors in other spaces are here - so get to asking questions!! TY for being #50 @Melissa DiBernardo
About to jump on the call with Amanda Peacock in a working session on customer databases.
Who’s attending REACH with G2 tomorrow? <!here>
Anonymous post:
New boss wants me to add PeerSpot to my GPI and TrustRadius review sourcing. How do I do this without overwhelming my customers?
Hi everyone! Happy to be here! Thanks for creating @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) 🙂
I may have to scale back my meetup/slack/linkedin memberships. I'm starting to spend an awful lot of time hanging with my peeps! Thanks, Mary.
One of the new things I’m adding is Scorebot, so we can all earn points and see how smart and how much we contribute. Use / scorebot winning to see the leaderboard.
Hey @Mary Green (Owner CMAweekly) excited to join you here!
Hello!
😄
The slack icon is very nice. 👍
Love this from Dharmesh at HubSpot
As promised, some of the slides I’ve come across recently, in the future this will live in a new category.
The first is from a webinar with Forrester & Demand Science, another Forrester webinar, and Groove’s tech stack from the Pipeline summit (I love to see Tech Stacks).
I’m hearing a lot of people talk about Expansion & revenue impact - anyone interested in a call where I invite an expert or two to join us?
TY
definitely happy to be here
Welcome all new members - I’m working on promotion this week so I hope this space will grow quickly.
What are you working on this week in the CMA world?